He doesn't have is a fully temporal semantic database structure with a generative normalization pattern matcher/vectorized scale free calculation minimizer... I.e. the G in AGI. In other words, he's missing the minimal concept basis for processing that has an optimal scalability while minimizing complexity, without that it's a crap shoot if someone will ever succeed in making a better than human level AGI that isn't just brute forcing human intelligence by putting too much human knowledge in a system and claiming it is better than human level intelligence while it is actually less than human level due to a complete lack of creativity.
Even worse, the deepest problem that nobody ever thinks about is the knowledge representation system... they all have static/fragile designs, Hawkins' products are really bad even in the sorta neural-net form he has is fucking self-crippling in the number of associations that can be built up. I've never seen a fucking neural-network capable of self-reflection and differentiation, among many other conceptual paradoxical forms humans have no problems thinking about.. On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 1:44 PM, Mike Archbold <[email protected]> wrote: > Long article, but interesting. It sounds like he's built the input > but not the output, the motor control. I don't think there is any > convincing argument about what paradigms to use for strong AI / AGI > since there isn't a working such thing yet. Some math-first > approaches seem like they want to lose you with the formula, otherwise > I like math.... > > On 4/3/14, John Rose <[email protected]> wrote: > > You don't have enough math here. > > > > > > > > People are now looking more at the mathematical formalisms of software > > systems. There are so many and of such variety. > > > > > > > > Hawkins has one approach not the only approach. > > > > > > > > He's hardcoding the components mimicked from biological intelligence. Are > > there more efficient and easier to build components and are there > > components > > that morph? His don't morph. It looks to me like hardcoded AI BUT I > haven't > > studied the system. > > > > > > > > John > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Azn A [mailto:[email protected]] > > > > > > > > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/03/29/hawkins_ai_feature > > > > > > > > "These are complex biological systems that were not designed by > > mathematical > > principles [that are] very difficult to formalize completely," he told > us. > > > > > > > > "This reminds me a bit of the beginning of the computer era," he said. > "If > > you go back to the 1930s and early 1940s, when people first started > > thinking > > about computers they were really interested in whether an algorithm would > > complete, and they were looking for mathematical completeness, a > > mathematical proof. If you today build a computer, no one sits around > > saying > > 'let's look at the mathematical formalism of this computer.' It reminds > me > > a > > little about that. We still have people saying 'You don't have enough > math > > here!' > > > > > > > > > > > > > > AGI | <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now> Archives > > <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/248029-3b178a58> | > > <https://www.listbox.com/member/?&;> > > Modify Your Subscription > > > > <http://www.listbox.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------- > > AGI > > Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now > > RSS Feed: > https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/11943661-d9279dae > > Modify Your Subscription: > > https://www.listbox.com/member/?&; > > Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com > > > > > ------------------------------------------- > AGI > Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now > RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/10514698-9a8cda1e > Modify Your Subscription: > https://www.listbox.com/member/?&; > Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com > ------------------------------------------- AGI Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/21088071-f452e424 Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=21088071&id_secret=21088071-58d57657 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
