Mike, that cute. However, once one has deeply either understood or has begun to understand the myriad of indirect causes behind every letter he puts down. Every statement requires a certain arrogance, and arrogance cannot exist in a weak spirit. The deeper the spirit, the higher must be his arrogance given that he will be much more aware of the little flaws and contradictions and unstated pressing issues that are always pressing yet somehow must be not only left unexamined within any particular statement but more painfully so, they cannot even be mentioned in passing.
So in other words, you're wrong yet again. Your mind works in black in white when the world is gray ;) On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 11:17 AM, Azn A <[email protected]> wrote: > Camel, it's nice that you're caught up in one point of view or dogma and > wallow in negativity i.e "there are very intelligent people full of fears > and ego", and aren't willing to abandon your loathsome traits. Whatever > helps you sleep at night right? However, you'll be left behind, and > isolated from the rest of mankind, so that your weakness can't contaminate > our purity in the new world order. As I said before, everything that lives > obeys. > > Here is the big picture: Automation WILL succeed in replacing about 80% of > the current workforce. All non-creative jobs have the possibility of being > replaced by machines in 10 years. We're looking at probably the biggest > economic change since the invention of agriculture. Maybe in human history, > period. We're in the transition stage at the moment. First, corporations > are using processes to conform job roles and remove human agency (choices, > options). Second, by removing agency, the corporate processes create > homogeneous performance. Third, once agency is removed and performance is > homogenized, it is an easy, logical next step to use machines to replace > workers. In the past, when human workers were displaced by technology it > also created new kinds of jobs that the world had never seen before. But > what happens when the day arrives when computers and robots can do almost > everything more cheaply and more efficiently than humans can? Maybe this: > http://www.strikemag.org/bullshit-jobs/ As I have said before: the final > state of a system is determined entirely by its initial state and the dance > of incentives inside of it. > > This why without me you're all doomed. We have to prepare economically > for the transition when ANY automate-able job that does not demand HUMAN > interaction is replaced more cheaply and efficiently by a machine. This > will allow humans to direct their will to power inward and gain > self-mastery. With self-mastery you gain profound self-control and > spiritual depth, representing a more refined form of power than the power > gained by conquering barbarians. Capitalism, like any other economic model, > meets two fundamental economic needs of society: the need to motivate the > production of wealth, and the need to distribute the production of wealth. > Capitalism meets these needs through two mechanisms. It links work to pay, > and ownership to profit. As we increase the rate of technological > advancement, we displace workers and break the first of those two > mechanisms. But our system is not setup to motivate production or > distribute wealth effectively through the ownership/profit pairing, instead > counting almost entirely on the work/pay pairing, and so without a change > in our economic model, we cannot rely on the ownership/profit mechanism as > a fall back. > > While I'm no socialist, the only viable economic system for in an > automated system is a moderate form a socialism. Less hours worked, maybe > 20 or so to spread out existing jobs. A base wage provided by taxing > producers and a market approach that allows people to be rewarded for work > and education on top of the base wage. Aggregate demand would diminish and > it is hard to justify excessive profits to people who employ automation to > provide goods and services. Socialism doesn't work in a pure form because > it doesn't motivate education, efficiency or any form of extra effort. > Machines do not need motivation and keeping capitalist principles and > shorter workdays could keep the economy advancing. > > Through a (relatively) minor correction in our economic model from > publicly traded stocks to cooperatives -- a model which is already > represented in the current economy but not widely embraced -- we can move > from the unfortunate concentration of wealth to the egalitarian > redistribution of wealth without raising taxes or violating any of the > property rights we hold so dear as a culture -- i.e. without stealing from > anyone. The key principle which distinguishes cooperatives from publicly > traded stocks is that each person can hold at most one share in a company, > and each share has equal weight. This forces dividends and control to be > more evenly distributed, which counteracts the natural accumulation of > wealth and power under the current system. > > There would of course still plenty of room to amass wealth, but this would > be done through the building up of a private company and, optionally, the > subsequent public offering of cooperative shares -- a fundamentally > creative and productive act on the part of the founder of the company -- as > opposed to how wealth is currently amassed, by merely capturing assets and > using them to leverage the capture of additional assets, which is nothing > more than an empty exercise in strategizing which inappropriately favors > those who already have wealth, rather than those who actually earn it, in > the competition to acquire more wealth. > > Technology is the path to eliminating toil work and thus far fewer people > will be needed to the produce the consumable goods of society. Thus, to > ensure a new era of peace, love, and prosperity(before a super AGI takes > over) we need to broaden individual ownership of the productive capital > assets created in a growth economy and thus ensure that increasingly people > will earn fully-paid dividend income through their ownership shares. > > > On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 8:36 AM, just camel <[email protected]> wrote: > >> You might be 20x smarter than I am yet you fail to realize that peace, >> love and prosperity have little to do with (what you refer to as) >> intelligence but with the quality of your consciousness. There are very >> intelligent people full of fears and ego and there are not so bright people >> who are way more empathic and loving than most people within the >> intellectual/academic world. Because of our culture and our belief traps >> there is little correlation between (what you refer to as) intelligence and >> the quality of consciousness to be found. >> >> >> On 04/08/2014 01:03 AM, Azn A wrote: >> >>> This is WHY I'm 20x smarter than you and lead the world into a new era >>> of peace, love, and prosperity :) >>> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------- >> AGI >> Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now >> RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ >> 10514698-9a8cda1e >> Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/ >> member/?& >> Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com >> > > ------------------------------------------- AGI Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/21088071-f452e424 Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=21088071&id_secret=21088071-58d57657 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
