Personally I think structure is what you make it. ~PM "Structure is as structure does" ~ F. Gump (Not!) ----------------------------------------------------------------- > Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2014 18:03:27 +0000 > Subject: Re: [agi] Structural Knoweldge > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > > PS., I meant this as a general comment, not as a reply to Piaget Modeler... > > On 4/17/14, Mike Archbold <[email protected]> wrote: > > This is all fine, but what science is there of structure as structure? > > I've been trying to sort this out recently. There are various > > versions of structuralism; I think one aligned more to science and one > > aligned more to the humanities. Gestalt psychology. System dynamics > > / complex systems comes to mind. What else? > > > > It's one thing to say "the structure is such and such, and I have > > these relations which are invariant." But, it is another thing to be > > able to perform computations on the model which would approach general > > intelligence. > > > > On 4/17/14, Piaget Modeler <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Great minds think alike. > >> I agree, in fact I have three categories: > >> 1. Structural, 2. Structural Content, and3. Content. > >> Once you've identified your structural relations, if you're going to > >> properly bootstrap this baby, then you next need to solve the Semantic > >> Kernel problem: i.e., what content relations are the core relations to > >> include. > >> ~PM > >> Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2014 09:31:38 -0400 > >> Subject: [agi] Structural Knoweldge > >> From: [email protected] > >> To: [email protected] > >> > >> There is a lot of evidence that humans, like other animals, learn > >> incrementally. However, my belief is that because we use ideas in > >> different > >> ways a new idea can interact with other ideas. There are moments when > >> something that is learned incrementally can be leveraged to produce leaps > >> of > >> insight. I call this knowledge structural because it means that an idea > >> can > >> suddenly provide some greater structure to knowledge related to a > >> particular > >> subject. The new increment of knowledge that triggers the structural > >> insight > >> may or may not be the key that provides the leverage of the structure. It > >> may be that some new piece of knowledge just helps to crystalize some > >> structure in a way that helps the learner to better utilize other > >> knowledge. > >> > >> In programming and computational mathematics we find distinctions between > >> things like operators and operands and you have to be able to find > >> distinctions between other different parts of a computation if you want > >> to > >> use mathematics creatively. However, I think it is obvious that the > >> situation is more dynamic and more fluid in thought. Some information may > >> play some role based on some other information so that it can react with > >> some other information and we just cannot categorize how some piece of > >> information might be used before hand. An AGI program has to be able to > >> find how information can work together to create greater structures of > >> knowledge. But for this to happen, the program has to be designed to > >> provide > >> the structure that will ensure that the potential to build learned > >> structures is there. > >> Jim Bromer > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> AGI | Archives > >> > >> | Modify > >> Your Subscription > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------------------- > >> AGI > >> Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now > >> RSS Feed: > >> https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/11943661-d9279dae > >> Modify Your Subscription: > >> https://www.listbox.com/member/?&; > >> Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com > >> > > > > > ------------------------------------------- > AGI > Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now > RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/19999924-4a978ccc > Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?&; > Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
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