Since a proposition, by most any logic that can do something, can be
integrated within a system of propositions, this implies that the 'meaning'
of the proposition must go beyond simply being 'true' or 'false'. So this
is "something else" but I am not sure how it should be worded. If you were
to try to specify every quality of a proposition in a meta-system of rules
you would have to specify that.

Jim Bromer

On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 7:34 AM, Jim Bromer <[email protected]> wrote:

> (a) and (d).
> However:
> If a proposition concerns a real world object then then most people would
> assume that it implied that the object existed - unless the proposition was
> specifically about the existence of the object (or otherwise implied by
> some system of propositions something about that existence).
> If a proposition concerned an abstraction from the real world then,
> unless specifically referring to the 'existence' or 'validity' of the
> abstraction, the assumption would be made that it implied that the
> abstraction referred to a real quality.
> If the proposition concerned an imaginary world then the assumption would
> be that it made sense for that imaginary world (for example it existed
> within that imaginary world) .
> Finally it could refer to something that was real contingent on some other
> condition.
> The proposition does not "mean" these things but they are necessary for
> applying the proposition to some tangible idea.
>
> Jim Bromer
>
> On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 11:28 PM, Piaget Modeler via AGI <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Logic seems to conflate many notions. I'm trying to disentagle these
>> meanings.
>>
>> Two statements:
>>
>> P                    #1
>> (not P)          #2
>>
>> What does statement #1 mean?
>>
>> P is true                (a)
>> P exists                 (b)
>> something else   (c)
>>
>>
>> What does statement #2 mean?
>>
>> P is false                  (d)
>> P does not exist     (e)
>> something else      (f)
>>
>>
>> Aren't these statements along two different dimensions  (viz. truth,
>> existence)?
>> If (c) or (f) then what is the something else?
>>
>>
>> Kindly advise.
>>
>> ~PM
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