yeah, that's more consistent with what I've heard from Demis in the past...



On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 8:30 AM, Calum Chace <[email protected]> wrote:

> Sorry, Ben, it wasn't centuries for Hassabis.  It was decades.  Rather an
> important difference!
>
> Last year, the American entrepreneur, Elon Musk, one of Deep Mind’s early
> investors, described AI as humanity’s greatest existential threat. “Unless
> you have direct exposure to groups like Deepmind, you have no idea how fast
> [AI] is growing,” he said. “The risk of something seriously dangerous
> happening is in the five year timeframe. Ten years at most.”
>
> However, the Google team played down the concerns. “We agree with him
> there are risks that need to be borne in mind, but we’re decades away from
> any sort of technology that we need to worry about,” Hassabis said.
>
>
> http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/feb/25/google-develops-computer-program-capable-of-learning-tasks-independently
>
> Calum
>
> On 17 March 2015 at 01:20, Ben Goertzel <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>> Did Demis really say AGI is hundreds of years away?   That surprises
>> me....
>>
>> I think Ng actually believes AGI is far off, he's conservative but I
>> believe he's a straight shooter.
>>
>> I don't know Yann and Christof F2F so I don't have a strong opinion on
>> their attitudes...
>>
>> -- Ben
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 8:13 AM, Calum Chace <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Yes, but Austin, of all places.
>>>
>>> Ben, why do you think Yann LeCun, Andrew Ng, Christof Koch and Demis
>>> Hassabis have all been lining up to say that AGI is hundreds of years
>>> away?  Are they worried about this sort of reaction?
>>>
>>> On 17 March 2015 at 01:10, Ben Goertzel via AGI <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> And of course it has to be in Texas 8-D ...
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 5:17 AM, Piaget Modeler via AGI <
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Straight out of Stephen Spielberg's film: A.I.
>>>>>
>>>>> ~PM
>>>>>
>>>>> > Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2015 12:59:25 -0700
>>>>> > Subject: Re: [agi] AI Protest in Texas
>>>>> > From: [email protected]
>>>>> > To: [email protected]
>>>>>
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On 3/16/15, Aaron Hosford <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> > > This sort of thing was predicted 50 years ago.
>>>>> > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butlerian_Jihad
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > Nonetheless, yes, mind blowing.
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 11:41 AM, Mike Archbold via AGI <
>>>>> [email protected]>
>>>>> > > wrote:
>>>>> > >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Bultlerian, named after a guy from Stanwood, WA. I'm not far from
>>>>> > there, actually, and there is a beautiful old Scandinavian farming
>>>>> > community there, with falling down barns and images of tall blonde
>>>>> > girls.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > A woman in the building I live in told me I have to find Jesus right
>>>>> > away after she took a look at my book, presently at position about
>>>>> > 5,000,000 on amazon. If I don't find Jesus right away it is all over.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > What a strange world.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> http://en.yibada.com/articles/19837/20150316/humans-hold-anti-ai-robot-protest-sxsw-texas.htm
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >> I find this kind of mind blowing. Down with robots? Down with AI?
>>>>> > >>
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>> "The reasonable man adapts himself to the world: the unreasonable one
>> persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress
>> depends on the unreasonable man." -- George Bernard Shaw
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>
> Calum
>
>


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