If I may say something pelase? To my understanding, Google would and Elon Musk would.
However, AI is not the real threat. In my most-humble opinion, it is the key to the solution to a real threat. The technology would still be developed, regardless, and is probably being hastened as we speak. Perhaps the following tenets should be applied to "their" rationale: "The cat's out of the bag. What they don't know, won't harm them. Let's just go underground and hurry it up some more." As such then, protests are insignificant, red herrings. Protests could be staged to support public statements, as a distraction and disabling strategy to detract from the real issues at hand. Who knows? Who cares? Most people don't even read. I agree more with the 5-year outlook, and it could even become 4, depending on how quickly the key constraints to such progress could be resolved by people like us. Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2015 08:39:22 +0800 Subject: Re: [agi] AI Protest in Texas From: [email protected] To: [email protected] CC: [email protected] yeah, that's more consistent with what I've heard from Demis in the past... On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 8:30 AM, Calum Chace <[email protected]> wrote: Sorry, Ben, it wasn't centuries for Hassabis. It was decades. Rather an important difference! Last year, the American entrepreneur, Elon Musk, one of Deep Mind’s early investors, described AI as humanity’s greatest existential threat. “Unless you have direct exposure to groups like Deepmind, you have no idea how fast [AI] is growing,” he said. “The risk of something seriously dangerous happening is in the five year timeframe. Ten years at most.” However, the Google team played down the concerns. “We agree with him there are risks that need to be borne in mind, but we’re decades away from any sort of technology that we need to worry about,” Hassabis said. http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/feb/25/google-develops-computer-program-capable-of-learning-tasks-independently Calum On 17 March 2015 at 01:20, Ben Goertzel <[email protected]> wrote: Did Demis really say AGI is hundreds of years away? That surprises me.... I think Ng actually believes AGI is far off, he's conservative but I believe he's a straight shooter. I don't know Yann and Christof F2F so I don't have a strong opinion on their attitudes... -- Ben On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 8:13 AM, Calum Chace <[email protected]> wrote: Yes, but Austin, of all places. Ben, why do you think Yann LeCun, Andrew Ng, Christof Koch and Demis Hassabis have all been lining up to say that AGI is hundreds of years away? Are they worried about this sort of reaction? On 17 March 2015 at 01:10, Ben Goertzel via AGI <[email protected]> wrote: And of course it has to be in Texas 8-D ... On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 5:17 AM, Piaget Modeler via AGI <[email protected]> wrote: Straight out of Stephen Spielberg's film: A.I. ~PM > Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2015 12:59:25 -0700 > Subject: Re: [agi] AI Protest in Texas > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > > On 3/16/15, Aaron Hosford <[email protected]> wrote: > > This sort of thing was predicted 50 years ago. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butlerian_Jihad > > > > Nonetheless, yes, mind blowing. > > > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 11:41 AM, Mike Archbold via AGI <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > Bultlerian, named after a guy from Stanwood, WA. I'm not far from > there, actually, and there is a beautiful old Scandinavian farming > community there, with falling down barns and images of tall blonde > girls. > > A woman in the building I live in told me I have to find Jesus right > away after she took a look at my book, presently at position about > 5,000,000 on amazon. If I don't find Jesus right away it is all over. > > What a strange world. > > >> > >> http://en.yibada.com/articles/19837/20150316/humans-hold-anti-ai-robot-protest-sxsw-texas.htm > >> > >> I find this kind of mind blowing. Down with robots? 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