The paper looks really interesting. I will try to read it tomorrow or next week.
This is my book: http://www.amazon.com/Approximation-Zero-Philosophical-Artificial-Intelligence/dp/0615882811/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1379518890&sr=8-2&keywords=approximation+zero The program would *not* be of interest to you, agreed. Mike On 3/19/15, justcamel via AGI <[email protected]> wrote: > I think god knows the value of a stock pretty well. Stocks are the > symptom of the currently collapsing narrative of fear, ego, competition, > infinite growth despite oversaturated markets, separation, control and > an incentive system based solely on short time, personal, proprietary > monetary profit ... basically the narrative which is killing 50,000 to > 100,000 people every day, the narrative which is dismantling Greece in > the name of capital, the narrative which forces 85% of the working > population into pointless, system #bullshitjobs which do not contribute > anything to society, the narrative which is slowly leading to world war > 3, the narrative which wastes 85% of our resources via systemic > transportation, redundancy, planned obsolescence, the externalization of > costs, etc., ... > > So what's the value of a stock and what it stands for? In monetary terms > probably a very large negative integer (the monetary cost of repairing > all the damage that has been dealt divided through the market-cap of the > company in relation to the entire damage) and a large non quantifiable > amount in the psychological and spiritual context. > > It's our contemporary state of absolute dysfunctionality which makes us > believe that stocks feature any positive value ... and yes I've made a > lot of money trading futures and stocks and I am not proud of it. > > "A child plays and develops his or her gifts but doesn't apply them to > their true purpose yet. And that's what humanity's been doing - we've > been messing around, playing with our gifts of technology and culture > and developing these gifts. Now we're coming into adulthood and it's > time to apply them to our true purpose. At the beginning this will be to > heal the damage that's been done and there's a lot of healing that needs > to be done. It's almost impossible actually. You could could say that > really we're in the business of creating a miracle here on earth. > > It's impossible from an old understanding of reality but possible from a > new one. In fact it's necessary and anything less than that isn't even > worth trying." -- http://sacred-economics.com > > > On 19.03.2015 21:28, Mike Archbold wrote: >> Recently I read the well-known book, A Random Walk Down Wall Street. >> I highly recommend it. One of my favorite lines from the book is >> basically (paraphrased) >> >> GOD HIMSELF DOES NOT KNOW THE CORRECT VALUE FOR A STOCK. >> >> On 3/19/15, justcamel via AGI <[email protected]> wrote: >>> This should work ... if I find a version that supports copy&paste I will >>> let you know (my environmentally unconscious ego still prefers "real" >>> books). The book is far from perfect ... I would have omitted the >>> biographical chapters and the humor is kind of weird but it gets more >>> scientific in the later chapters where he explains how primordial >>> consciousness evolved and came up with this virtual reality and how and >>> why consciousness is able to alter reality. But I guess you need some >>> introduction if you want to reach people who are not yet assuming the >>> axioms of contemporary science to still be incomplete. >>> >>> http://www.pdf-archive.com/2014/06/15/my-big-t-o-e/my-big-t-o-e.pdf >>> >>> On 19.03.2015 12:08, Ben Goertzel wrote: >>>> camel, >>>> >>>> the campbell book looks interesting -- do you have a link to an easily >>>> downloadable e-version? >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 6:57 PM, justcamel via AGI <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>>> Wow, I am speechless. That's just most amazing. You are one of the >>>>> very, >>>>> very few highly intellectual people who have overcome this very, very >>>>> deep >>>>> cultural belief system. >>>>> >>>>> "In my teens and 20s I was pretty confident these phenomena were >>>>> obviously >>>>> nothing more than wishful thinking." >>>>> >>>>> Same here. I spent half my life doing software engineering and digital >>>>> electronics. I never even considered that "soul", "life after death", >>>>> etc. >>>>> were valid concepts. >>>>> >>>>> Give Campbell's book a shot. His humor doesn't really resonate with me >>>>> but >>>>> who cares ... he explains PSI in a simple, logical and elegant way. >>>>> PSI >>>>> is >>>>> just a core aspect of this virtual >>>>> consciousness-evolution-training-environment and given your experience >>>>> in >>>>> designing and implementing virtual learning environments and your >>>>> amazing >>>>> intellect you will love the beauty behind the implementation of this >>>>> virtual >>>>> reality. >>>>> >>>>> Thank you for everything you are doing Ben! >>>>> >>>>> Back to topic ... ;-) >>>>> >>>>> On 19.03.2015 11:21, Ben Goertzel wrote: >>>>>> http://multiverseaccordingtoben.blogspot.hk/2015/03/paranormal-phenomena-nonlocal-mind-and.html >>>>>> >>>>>> -- Ben >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------------------- >>>>> AGI >>>>> Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now >>>>> RSS Feed: >>>>> https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/212726-deec6279 >>>>> Modify Your Subscription: >>>>> https://www.listbox.com/member/?&; >>>>> Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com >>>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------- >>> AGI >>> Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now >>> RSS Feed: >>> https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/11943661-d9279dae >>> Modify Your Subscription: >>> https://www.listbox.com/member/?&; >>> Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com >>> > > > > ------------------------------------------- > AGI > Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now > RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/11943661-d9279dae > Modify Your Subscription: > https://www.listbox.com/member/?&; > Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com > ------------------------------------------- AGI Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/21088071-f452e424 Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=21088071&id_secret=21088071-58d57657 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
