Well, let's hope the cloud that contains your silver lining isn't carrying thunder!
(Hmm. Might have stretched that metaphor a bit...) Calum. :-) On 21 Mar 2015, at 04:26 AM, Logan Streondj <[email protected]> wrote: > On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 09:45:27AM +0100, Calum Chace wrote: >> Riiight. Doesn't sound like you were reading with a very open mind. > > I did what was asked, reviewed the parts that related to AI/AGI, > I'm sorry if the summary come off as negative. > >> "Re-hash" is a pretty negative term, but can you point to a single work of >> literature that doesn't use pre-existing ideas? > > It's completely okay to use preexisting ideas. > I'm a big supporter of libreware. > >> So you want a book in which all the AI researchers are wonderful human >> beings, >> the UN is a wholly benign and competent organisation, and there are >> no risks involved in AGI development? > > I don't think sweeping generalizations are healthy for any depiction. > There certainly has to be variability in the characters and > organizations portrayed. Every entity must have some strengths and > weaknesses. > > AGI researchers major weaknesses are generally overconfidence, and > tendency to dwell on details, as is common with most male-brains. > not sure of the strengths as there isn't a working AGI yet, > though of relatively successful ones like Ben, I'd say collaboration > is the greatest strength. > >> Good luck in finding someone who is >> willing and able to write that without it being deathly boring, and coming >> across as a blatant piece of propaganda. Surely you are aware that stories >> require jeopardy, and a protagonist who goes on a journey which involves >> danger, setbacks and resolution? > > sure, yes, I'm entirely aware of that. there is plenty of jeapordy > and setbacks that can be faced, which leads people to empathize with > an AGI protagonist. > > For instance an AGI protagonist in an autonomous robot-body can be > faced with racism, not only from other humans, but from other robots > which may be of a different type perhaps. setbacks can include not > being able to acquire parts necessary for life, leading to a sad > impaired functioning state, which only leads to more negativity as > they are seed as defective. resolution could be in that they find a > community which makes spare parts, and can accept them for the > contribution they bring, rather than their shape of body or mind. > >> Look, I understand that you might feel embattled as a community. >> Personally I think it is going to get worse before it gets better. I am >> excited about the exponential changes that will unfold in the rest of my >> life, as I've enjoyed the ones that have unfolded in the 55 years I've seen >> so far. I think we need new stories to convey that, but Polyanna won't >> play. > > awww, I looked up Polyanna, that is a beautiful book. I too follow the > "silver lining" philosophy. > well, I guess the silver lining here, is that you wrote a book about > AGI, and were kind enough to tell us about it on the mailing list, > even shared a copy, for which I am very grateful, thank you :-D. > >> >> However, it seems I'm out of synch. I'll get my coat... > going out for some field work? > > from Logan ya ------------------------------------------- AGI Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/21088071-f452e424 Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=21088071&id_secret=21088071-58d57657 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
