Re uploading, I should think those who are seeking to make "safe" AI should be rather afraid of uploaded minds, because of their potential to merge into machine superintelligence, while presumably maintaining all the primal, often conflicting, and largely selfish instincts of human nature.
On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 1:37 PM, Marco Alpini <[email protected]> wrote: > Great synthesis Alan I agree 100% > > On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 5:08 AM, Alan Grimes <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Okay, it seems that I should add some detail to my anti-uploading stance. >> >> I am not an uploader and I don't support uploading, especially with >> respect to myself. >> >> That said, there does seem to be two categories of uploaders. >> >> First, there are the "porch uploaders". These people see uploading as an >> alternative to death and see it as a means for getting another go-round. >> On balance, I don't have any problem with that. They see a choice >> between uploading and death, and if you accept that as a dichotomy, then >> it is reasonable to choose uploading. It is also reasonable to chose >> death in that case, but then it's more of a coin-flip or a value >> judgement. Porch uploaders do not have a specific teleology and do not >> propose anything that would negatively impact people who do not chose to >> upload. Because of that, I don't really care because it falls under >> morphological and neuromorphic freedom and should be treated as a basic >> right. >> >> The hard uploaders, on the other hand, have a very different outlook. >> They believe that uploading should be achieved as soon as possible, and >> implemented universally as soon as it can meet their definition of >> safety. They see no future for organic life, no alternate courses of >> evolution, no possibility for even any revision or improvement of their >> own meme-plex. They propose an absolutely cataclysmic teleology that >> would obliterate life as we know it, and everything we value in our >> current incarnations not only here on Earth but across the universe. =\ >> >> It is this later group that I rail against because it precludes all >> other evolutionary paths and because it just plain sux. =\ It denies all >> ambitions that aren't scanning your brain into a computer simulation. >> Basically, if you don't work for a laboratory studying mind uploading, >> then whatever you are doing is merely killing time while you wait for >> the uploading research to complete and the singularity comes and uploads >> you and ushers in the "post upload era" where biological life will, at >> best, be keept around until it finally relents and allows itself to be >> uploaded. =( >> >> -- >> IQ is a measure of how stupid you feel. >> >> Powers are not rights. >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------- >> AGI >> Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now >> RSS Feed: >> https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/27738727-35a82580 >> Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?&; >> Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com >> > > *AGI* | Archives <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now> > <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/8630185-a57a74e1> | Modify > <https://www.listbox.com/member/?&;> > Your Subscription <http://www.listbox.com> > ------------------------------------------- AGI Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/21088071-f452e424 Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=21088071&id_secret=21088071-58d57657 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
