Ben, On Sun, Nov 1, 2015 at 10:29 PM, Ben Goertzel <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 2:36 PM, Steve Richfield <[email protected] > > wrote: > >> Ben, >> >> > If the OpenCog design is basically right, then still we have maybe >> 200-300 human-years >> >> Burdened at $200K/yr (a really small value) that works out to $40M-$60M, >> > > > But I can hire good C++ developers for US$7500/year all overheads > included, in our AI/robotics development office in Addis Ababa.... Costs > in, say, Chengdu are only double that. No need to work in overpriced > places like Silicon Valley. > At some risk of being perceived off-topic, in *SUCCESSFUL* *DEVELOPMENT* projects, coding usually accounts for ~15% of the overall effort. Sure you an claim that your particular type of research contains MUCH more than that, but you are nowhere near a product. It is my STRONG suspicion that by the time AGI has been commercialized (if it ever is), that the portion that is coding will have "shrunk" to 15% in the face of other wallet-emptiers, like design, tables, etc. > > >> which is TOO BIG to fund without an established cash flow, unless you can >> demonstrate magic like Facebook has done. Anything over $10M MUST be done >> as a public offering that requires SEC scrutiny that is there to BLOCK >> companies with big dreams but nothing to show. >> > > That's untrue, actually... > I'll watch. > > > If your goal is to make a lot of $$ then whether OSS is the right >> approach is arguable. >> >> YES - THIS explains our argument. Until SOMEONE here makes a BIG bundle >> of money, AGI isn't going to go anywhere. I would rather NOT be that >> person, but no one else seems to be steeping into this role. >> > > Actually Demis Hassabis has stepped into that role pretty nicely... > > But Linux has prevailed without selling out to big companies (and without > Torvalds getting insanely rich, for that matter). And so may an OSS AGI > initiative, if things go well... > Linux is <<<1% of AGI and so makes a horrible model. There was nothing to do in Linux but code, because there was UNIX to copy, and UNIX is SO much simpler than YOU are. I suggest writing a business plan and putting it out there for people to pick at, and then including an addendum addressing people objections that you don't directly address in the plan. Until then, it is all smoke and mirrors. Steve > *AGI* | Archives <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now> > <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/10443978-6f4c28ac> | > Modify > <https://www.listbox.com/member/?&;> > Your Subscription <http://www.listbox.com> > -- Full employment can be had with the stoke of a pen. Simply institute a six hour workday. That will easily create enough new jobs to bring back full employment. ------------------------------------------- AGI Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/21088071-f452e424 Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=21088071&id_secret=21088071-58d57657 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
