> Kevin wrote:
> > The important thing is to avoid DARPA getting it before everyone
> > else does.
> > The ***only*** way to do this is to avoid accepting funding from them.
If
> > this means that it takes 5 more years to develop, then so be it.  If it
> > means that you have to flip burgers by day, and code by night, then so
be
> > it.  If someone makes a deal with the devil, they are only going
> > to receive
> > a bad result.
>
> This is not a major current issue for me, in the sense that I have no
> pending funding applications with DARPA, and they haven't called me up
> offering cash.
>
> However, I don't see why accepting DARPA funding for AGI means that the
> military will necessarily get one's AGI before anyone else.

Money may make you beholden to them...But in the most dark scenario, should
it become apparent
that NM will be as wildly successful as we think is possible, they may
**make sure** that the jeanie stays
only in their bottle, which may not be so good for you and your team, if you
know what I mean.
I would hope such a scenario would not play out that way, but I would
currently put nothing past them.  Their track record on such matters is not
so good.  There are no limits on what they will do "in the name of national
security"..

>
> If the DARPA funding is for a non-secret project, then one has the freedom
> to use the software elsewhere simultaneously with DARPA doing what it
likes
> with the software (i.e. passing it along to the defense community).

You assume that stipulation would stick should things become successful, I
do not...

>
> In fact, DARPA has funded plenty of research that has proved more useful
in
> the outside world than in the defense community....  One factor here is
that
> there is a bureaucracy in the defense community that often proves a
barrier
> to the adoption of new technologies, even ones that are developed via
DARPA
> and other defense-related funding.

And plenty that has resulted in the deaths of many..

An AGI would cut thru that beaurocracy like hot butter..count on it...

>
> A more accurate statement, in my view, would be: "Accepting DARPA funding
> makes the military aware of one's technology, hence making them more
likely
> to use it; and it may possibly have adverse effects in terms of causing
one
> to ignore other applications of the technology, or to later move into
> secretive, classified applications of one's technology."
>

Well put..

Kevin

> -- Ben G
>
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