It is true that eventually this technology will be in the public domain and
be available to DARPA.

The important thing is to avoid DARPA getting it before everyone else does.
The ***only*** way to do this is to avoid accepting funding from them.  If
this means that it takes 5 more years to develop, then so be it.  If it
means that you have to flip burgers by day, and code by night, then so be
it.  If someone makes a deal with the devil, they are only going to receive
a bad result.

Some people want to delude themselves that they are doing something "good",
but their real motives may lie $$$elsewhere$$$. (not referring to the
Novamente team).

Peace,
Kevin


----- Original Message -----
From: "Ben Goertzel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 9:09 AM
Subject: RE: [agi] An idea for promoting AI development.


>
>
> Regarding being wary about military apps of AI technology, it seems to me
> there are two different objectives one might pursue:
>
> 1) to avoid militarization of one's technology
>
> 2) to avoid the military achieving *exclusive* control over one's
technology
>
> It seems to me that the first objective is very hard, regardless of
whether
> one accepts military funding or not.  The only ways that I can think of to
> achieve 1) would be
>
> 1a) total secrecy in one's project all the way
>
> 1b) extremely rapid ascendancy from proto-AGI to superhuman AGI -- i.e.
> reach the end goal before the military notices one's project.  This relies
> on "security through simply being ignored" up to the proto-AGI phase...
>
> On the other hand, the second objective seems to me relatively easy.  If
one
> publishes one's work and involves a wide variety of developers in it, no
one
> is going to achieve exclusive power to create AGI.  AGI is not like
nuclear
> weapons, at least not if a software-on-commodity-hardware approach works
(as
> I think it well).  Commodity hardware only is required, programming skills
> are common, and math/cog-sci skills are not all *that* rare...
>
> -- Ben G
>
>
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
> > Behalf Of Alexander E. Richter
> > Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 7:48 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: [agi] An idea for promoting AI development.
> >
> >
> > At 07:18 02.12.02 -0500, Ben wrote:
> > >....
> > >Can one use military funding for early-stage AGI work and then somehow
> > >delimitarize one's research once it reaches a certain point?
> > One can try,
> > >but will one succeed?
> >
> > They will squeeze you out, like Lillian Reynolds and Michael Brace in
> > BRAINSTORM (1983) (Christopher Walken, Natalie Wood)
> >
> > cu Alex
> >
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