To allow that somewhere in the Himalayas, someone may be able,
with years of training, to lessen the urgency of hunger and
pain, is not sufficient evidence to assert that the proposition
that not everyone can turn them off completely is insensible.
The first sentence of the proposition was exactly "You cannot turn off
hunger." (i.e. not that not everyone can turn them off)
My response is "I certainly can -- not permanently, but certainly so
completely that I am not aware of it for hours at a time" and further that I
don't believe that I am at all unusual in this regard.
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From: "Philip Goetz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 2:01 PM
Subject: Re: Re: Motivational Systems of an AI [WAS Re: [agi] RSI - What is
it and how fast?]
On 12/4/06, Ben Goertzel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The statement, "You cannot turn off hunger or pain" is sensible.
> In fact, it's one of the few statements in the English language that
> is LITERALLY so. Philosophically, it's more certain than
> "I think, therefore I am".
>
> If you maintain your assertion, I'll put you in my killfile, because
> we cannot communicate.
It is reported that, with sufficiently advanced training in
appropriate mind-control arts (e.g. some Oriental ones), something
accurately describable as "turning off hunger or pain" becomes
possible, from a subjective experiential perspective.
To allow that somewhere in the Himalayas, someone may be able,
with years of training, to lessen the urgency of hunger and
pain, is not sufficient evidence to assert that the proposition
that not everyone can turn them off completely is insensible.
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