Thanks, Ben. If anyone knows more, I'd be grateful - that's such a huge, 
fundamental claim - basically "no computer can [up till now] recognize a cat, 
or any object" , that I think it's important to establish the historical truth 
of it. (He actually didn't distinguish between drawings/fotos. I did). 

Are you saying, for example, some current systems can recognize basic objects 
like cups/cats from photos? I guess that means: recognize "it's a cat" from 
either a) photos of several different cats and/ or b) photos of the same cat in 
several different positions.
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  From: Benjamin Goertzel 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 3:58 AM
  Subject: Re: [agi] Quick Hawkins Questions





  On 5/13/07, Mike Tintner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
    Here's a link to a lecture of his that's clearer than anything I've read 
(incl. the book):

    http://mitworld.mit.edu/video/316/ 

    Bottom line: his system can recognize simple objects from outline drawings 
- like "dog", "cup." That seems to be the only concrete claim he's making right 
now. There's no indication it can yet do anything more - like, say. recognize 
simple movements ("dog bite", "cup fall") or recognize objects from more 
complex photos  Am I correct here?

    Secondly: he seems to be claiming that NO visual object recognition system 
has achieved this before. If so, is he correct?





  I'm not sure how many people have **tried** to make software systems that 
recognize outline drawings...

  Most vision researchers have focused more on recognition of images in 
photos...

  Probably if other researchers tried to tune their systems to recognize 
outline drawings, they could...

  -- Ben G

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