my 2 cents worth (both to Mark & YKY): think of the people you are trying to co-opt onto the project. Some of us (most mid-lifers) have *some* income stream (regular job or otherwise) but are extremely committed to AGI as one of our main purposes of our life. Ideally we would want a rich donor to sponsor us to work full-time on AGI (though personally I doubt whether *I* could work 60-80 hours a week every week on AGI) but we are not really motivated by money (current or future income streams) - some of us only in due credit and some of the latter group perhaps in fame :) We are likely to not be interested in neither of your schemes because our philosophy is 'let's build a (couple of) prototype(s) first to see if our ideas work and take it from there - either fully proprietary or full OSS'. (Ok Ben got a bit further along that track than most of 'us'.) Many of the others, I suspect, (mainly the younger ones on the list) NEED a regular and solid immediate income stream and your models ALSO does not provide for that. So I am not sure what type of individuals (i.e. their personal circumstances) either of your schemes attracts/motivates. Perhaps it may be more productive to ask people on the list quickly to indicate their interest and/or willingness to participate in your scheme (by emailing either of you directly rather than the list)? Just my thoughts... =Jean-Paul Van Belle
PS @Mike/J Stors - yes I remember the Hilbert spaces posting as well but skipped it (was way beyond my intellectual level/maths background) but it is definitely there in the archives (but perhaps one of the other lists?) PSS Ben I loved reading your blog. Pls keep it up. If you ever have time, let us know why, of the 3 different AGI approaches you entertained, you went with Novamente instead of the Hebbian neural net (and the theorem proving one)... us scruffies would like to know... is it just your mathematical bias/background or something more fundamental? PSSS :) Google is doing narrow AI, Semantic Web & NLP, IBM is doing WebFountain (i.e. also semantic web) and autonomous computing. So neither seem to be in AGI. Anyone knows what M$ is up to? They have hired quite a few smart CS *and* psych people too... >>> "Mark Waser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 06/02/07 11:56 PM >>> >> Yes, I believe there're people capable of producing income-generating stuff >> in the interim. I can't predict how the project would evolve, but am >> optimistic. Ask Ben about how much that affects a project . . . . Note: Yes, I do have a serious mistrust of the legal system. ----- This list is sponsored by AGIRI: http://www.agiri.org/email To unsubscribe or change your options, please go to: http://v2.listbox.com/member/?member_id=231415&user_secret=e9e40a7e
