Self, POV, I - these may be more biological, evolutionary optimized,
physical things not required in an AGI.  Picture two fused human brains
created in a lab 50 years from now by some mad scientist.  What type of self
would this be?  In AGI software self could be geographically distributed
software goo not centralized or it could be some other type of hybrid.
Human communication to this self would be strange if not nightmarish as the
AGI might be 1000x smarter than us.

John


> From: Mike Tintner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> Some v. interesting thoughts from "a" here.
> 
> What this makes me wonder is whether a self may be essential to vision.
> All
> human vision arguably has a POV - you're not just seeing an object,
> you're
> seeing an object at a certain distance and angle to you - the self..
> ("Self"
> here is in no way mystical - simply a unified sense of your body - and
> perhaps what that Carnegie Mellon outfit gave to their crawling,
> starfish-like robot recently). All consciousness arguably is an
> "itheatre" -
> i.e. every sight, sound etc. includes a sense of our self as spectator
> sensing/seeing/hearing objects.
> 
> And that sense of object/scene in relation to self, is essential for us
> to
> how roughly measure/ estimate how big, how fast etc. the object is. The
> self
> is a crucial point of reference.
> 
> Do Poggio's or Hawkin's or any other visual object recognition system
> incorporate a self - i.e. orientation of object to self?
> 
> P.S. The above, I would argue, is why "I" and "eye" are intertwined.
> 

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