--- Mike Dougherty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On 10/3/07, Matt Mahoney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > The higher levels detect complex objects like airplanes or printed words
> or
> > faces.  We could (lossily) compress images much smaller if we knew how to
> > recognize these features.  The idea would be to compress a movie to a
> written
> > script, then have the decompressor reconstruct the movie.  The
> reconstructed
> > movie would be different, but not in a way that anyone would notice, in
> the
> > same way that pairs of images such as
> > http://www.slylockfox.com/arcade/6diff/index.html would have the same
> > compressed representations.
> 
> Is this because we use a knowledgebase of classes for things like
> "airplane" that can be used to fill in the details that are lost
> during compression?

Yes.

> Can that KB be seeded, or must it be experientially evolved from a
> more primitive precept?  Consider how little useful skill a human baby
> has compared to other animals.  Perhaps thats the trade-off for a high
> potential general intelligence, there must be a lot of faltering and
> (semi-) useless motion while learning the basics.

It seems that a baby is born knowing very little, compared to an antelope born
already knowing how to run, or a spider born knowing how to weave a web.  But
I would not discount the possibility that a baby is born already knowing a
very complex algorithm for learning.

I think with a better understanding of this algorithm, that a visual
perception knowledge base can be trained in a hierarchical manner, building
from simple visual patterns to more abstract concepts.  Just not on a PC.  An
adult level human visual perception system is trained on 20 years of video, or
about 10^16 bits of DVD quality MPEG-2.  This is 10^6 times more data than 20
years worth of text, even though the perceptible information content is about
the same.  Curiously, there is also a 10^6 gap between the cognitive model of
long term memory (10^9 bits) and the number of synapses in the brain (10^15).


-- Matt Mahoney, [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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