> Echolocation--just like the brain--isn't solved yet, so you cannot claim > that it is unrelated to your definition of vision.
What? It is not *my* definition of vision. There are standard definitions of vision like vi·sion /ˈvɪʒən/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[vizh-uhn] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation –noun 1. the act or power of sensing with the eyes; sight. from dictionary .com. --------------------------------------- Echo-location is hearing (the act or power of sensing with the ears), *NOT* vision. --------------------------------------- If you can't come up with something necessary for intelligence that vision allows that echo-location does not, then you can't say that vision is necessary (i.e. your argument is total BS). > Vision can simulate > "spatial" intelligence. What you mean is . . . . it's really spatial intelligence that is necessary but since I think that vision can "emulate" it maybe I can argue that it is vision that is necessary. ----- Original Message ----- From: "a" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 5:38 PM Subject: Re: [agi] The Grounding of Maths > Mark Waser wrote: >>>> Visualspatial intelligence is required for almost anything. >> >> I'm sorry. This is all pure, unadulterated BS. You need spatial >> intelligence (i.e. a world model). You do NOT need visual anything. >> The only way in which you need visual is if you contort it's meaning >> until it effectively means spatial. Visual means related to vision. >> If you can't tell me why vision allows something that echo-location >> quality hearing does not (other than color perception -- which is >> *NOT* necessary for intelligence), then you don't need visual. >> > Echolocation--just like the brain--isn't solved yet, so you cannot claim > that it is unrelated to your definition of vision. Vision can simulate > "spatial" intelligence. Light use waves so it can reconstruct a model. > Similarly, sound use waves, so it can reconstruct a model. The > difference is just the type of wave. See > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_echolocation#Vision_and_hearing > > ----- > This list is sponsored by AGIRI: http://www.agiri.org/email > To unsubscribe or change your options, please go to: > http://v2.listbox.com/member/?&; > ----- This list is sponsored by AGIRI: http://www.agiri.org/email To unsubscribe or change your options, please go to: http://v2.listbox.com/member/?member_id=8660244&id_secret=53163864-9c4170
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