It is my solid opinion that vision is required, just like your solid opinion that vision is not required

This is not an opinion matter. I point to the *FACT* of numerous blind-from-birth individuals who are intelligent without vision. You have no counter-examples or proof whatsoever. Do you also feel that gravity is a matter of opinion?

Arguing between this is purely religious, inefficacious, unnecessary and counter-productive.

Only from your side. Science looks at facts. I have the irrefutable fact of intelligent blind people. You have nothing -- so you decide that it is an opinion thing. Tell me how my position is not cold, hard science. You are the one whose position is wholly faith with no facts to point to.



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Mark Waser wrote:

You have shown me *ZERO* evidence that vision is required for intelligence and blind from birth individuals provide virtually proof positive that vision is not necessary for intelligence. How can you continue to argue the converse?
It is my solid opinion that vision is required, just like your solid opinion that vision is not required. I believe that intelligence requires pattern matching, so visual pattern matching and spatial pattern matching are the same. Arguing between this is purely religious, inefficacious, unnecessary and counter-productive.

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