Matt, IN my Mon 12/3/2007 8:17 PM post to John Rose from which your are probably quoting below I discussed the bandwidth issues. I am assuming nodes directly talk to each other, which is probably overly optimistic, but still are limited by the fact that each node can only receive somewhere roughly around 100 128 byte messages a second. Unless you have a really big P2P system, that just isn't going to give you much bandwidth. If you had 100 million P2P nodes it would. Thus, a key issue is how many participants is an AGI-at-Home P2P system going to get.
I mean, what would motivate the average American, or even the average computer geek turn over part of his computer to it? It might not be an easy sell for more than several hundred or several thousand people, at least until it could do something cool, like index their videos for them, be a funny chat bot, or something like that. Ed Porter -----Original Message----- From: Matt Mahoney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 8:51 PM To: agi@v2.listbox.com Subject: RE: Hacker intelligence level [WAS Re: [agi] Funding AGI research] --- Ed Porter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We do not know the number and width of the spreading activation that is > necessary for human level reasoning over world knowledge. Thus, we really > don't know how much interconnect is needed and thus how large of a P2P net > would be needed for impressive AGI. But I think it would have to be larger > than say 10K nodes. In complex systems on the boundary between stability and chaos, the degree of interconnectedness per node is constant. Complex systems always evolve to this boundary because stable systems aren't complex and chaotic systems can't be incrementally updated. In my thesis ( http://cs.fit.edu/~mmahoney/thesis.html ) I did not estimate the communication bandwidth. But it is O(n log n) because the distance between nodes grows as O(log n). For each message sent or received, a node must also relay O(log n) messages. If the communication protocol is natural language text, then I am pretty sure our existing networks can handle it. -- Matt Mahoney, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ----- This list is sponsored by AGIRI: http://www.agiri.org/email To unsubscribe or change your options, please go to: http://v2.listbox.com/member/?&; ----- This list is sponsored by AGIRI: http://www.agiri.org/email To unsubscribe or change your options, please go to: http://v2.listbox.com/member/?member_id=8660244&id_secret=71708450-da8cab
