Richard,

It seems that under "Real Grounding Problem" you mean "Communication
Problem".

Basically your goal is to make sure that when two systems communicate
with each other -- they understand each other correctly.

Right?

If that's the problem -- I'm ready to give you my solution.


BTW, I had to read your explanation 3 times to get it [if I got it].
:-)



Tuesday, December 4, 2007, 6:29:11 PM, you wrote:

> The grounding problem has to do with exactly who is doing the
> interpreting of the AGI's internal symbols.

> If the system is built in such a way that it builds its own symbols as
> part of the process of using them, then by definition it is grounded
> because it was the one that made the symbols.

> But if we write down a bunch of symbols - deciding the format in which
> the symbols are represented, and stuff at least some of them with 
> content - then there is a very big question about whether the mechanisms
> that browse on those symbols will actually be *using* them as if their
> meaning was the same as the meaning we originally intended.  Meaning,
> you see, is implicit in the way the symbols are used, so there is no
> particular reason why the way the symbols are actually used by the 
> system should match up with the originally intended meaning that we 
> impose when we look at the symbols.

> The way this most often manifests itself is when the AI system delivers
> results in natural language that are simply an expression of our imposed
> meanings.

> Main difficulty:  this entire problem is extremely subtle, and most 
> people simply don't get what the problem is, so they think it is about
> connecting the AGI to its environment in some way.  It takes a fair bit
> of effort to get you head around the real problem (I have only sketched
> a pale shadow of it in this post, for example).

> Hope that makes enough sense.


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