On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 10:53 AM, rg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi
>
> Is anyone discussing what to do in the future when we
> have made AGIs? I thought that was part of why
> the singularity institute was made ?
>
> Note, that I am not saying we should not make them!
> Because someone will regardless of what we decide.
>
> I am asking for what should do to prepare for it!
> and also how we should affect the creation of AGIs?
>
> Here's some questions, I hope I am not the first to come up with.
>
> * Will they be sane?
> * Will they just be smart enough to pretend to be sane?
>    until...they do not have to anymore.
>
> * Should we let them decide for us ?
>  If not should we/can we restrict them ?
>
> * Can they feel any empathy for us ?
>   If not, again should we try to manipulate/force them to
>   act like they do?
>
> * Our society is very dependent on computer systems
>  everywhere and its increasing!!!
>   Should we let the AGIs have access to the internet ?
>  If not is it even possible to restrict an AGI that can think super fast
>  is a super genious and also has a lot of raw computer power?
>  That most likely can find many solutions to get internet access...
>  (( I can give many crazy examples on how if anyone doubts))
>
> * What should we "stupid" organics do to prepare ?
>   Reduce our dependency?
>
> * Should a scientist, that do not have true ethical values be allowed to
> do AGI research ?
>  Someone that just pretend to be ethical, someone that just wants the
> glory and the
>  Nobel price....someone that answers the statement: It is insane With:
> Oh its just needs
>  some adjustment, don't worry :)
>
> * What is the military doing ? Should we raise public awareness to gain
> insight?
>    I guess all can imagine why this is important..
>
> The only answers I have found to what can truly control/restrict an AGI
> smarter than us
> are few..
>
> - Another AGI
> - Total isolation
>
> So anyone thinking about this?
>
>
>
>
> You seem rather concerned about this.  I don't agree that concern is
> warranted, at least not if that concern becomes negative or painful.  Now,
> the magisterium of contemporary scientific culture would stone me with
> condescending thoughts of "how silly... a folksy ignoramus" for saying or
> even thinking this.. but.....  just as hands are for grabbing and eyes are
> for seeing, final cause is not hard at all to intuit.  You can't find it
> with an instrument, but it is right there in front of you if you look for
> it.  Having said that, if you can accept that eyes are for seeing, then it
> is not too hard to intuit that we are, on some level, aside from our
> individual journeys perhaps, for building a medium for a noosphere.  Said
> another way, the next step in the evolution from rock to pure living
> information is, I think, the WWW as AGI, probably with nanobots and direct
> interface with human brains..  Or maybe not.  My point is only that it is
> obvious that we are heading towards something really quickly, with
> unstoppable inertia, and unless some world tyrant crushed all freedoms and
> prevented everyone from doing what they are doing, there is no way that it
> is not going to happen.  So, enjoy, and be an observer to the show.  The
> ending is easy to predict so don't worry (excessively) about the details.
>
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