Jim,

    You are absolutely correct.  Try the following logical definition/meme-map 
where all links are tautologies (and therefore transitive)

                    ------------------------->Spread<------------------------
                    |                |                     |                    
   |
                    |                |                     |                    
   |
                    v                v                    v                     
 v
            Intelligent <--> Friendly <-->  Ethical <--> {Core of all 
religions}<-->{Any current religion minus irrational, unethical , stupidities}
                    ^              ^         \            ^               ^     
                    |               |           \           |               |
                    v              v            \         v               v
           Rational<-->Self-Interest   {Play Well With Others)<-->Love

    The meme itself is a successful implementation of Seed Friendliness (and 
Intelligence) if successfully implanted.



  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Jim Bromer 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2008 5:33 PM
  Subject: **SPAM** [agi] The Effect of Application of an Idea


  I want to quickly mention an idea I had a few years ago.  New knowledge can 
be thought of as data stored somewhere in some kind of database, but it also 
has a greater potential of effect when it used intelligently.  New knowledge is 
not just a dull object of information to be stored, because it has a potential 
to be far reaching when it is used.  It even has the potential to change the 
course of ones thinking.



  Knowledge is varied, and the usefulness, adequacy and accuracy will not be 
the same for each piece of information.  Some information will constitute a 
meaningful idea and some will only constitute a fragment of an idea.  Knowledge 
constitutes understanding only when it is combined with more knowledge that is 
relevant to it and can be used effectively to integrate it into a greater sense 
of the subject matter.  So even though a piece of knowledge may be recognized 
as meaningful, that meaning exists because it can be related to many other 
kinds of knowledge.



  Knowledge is not just a piece of information that lies dully on a dusty 
shelf, so to speak, it has the potential to dynamically relate to other kinds 
of knowledge.  In my view of advanced AI, knowledge has to play different 
computational roles with other kinds of knowledge.



  A few years ago, I realized that different kinds of knowledge can have a 
varied range of effect when it is applied to other knowledge.  Let's say that I 
want to store the information that parts x1332-b and z733-c are somehow related 
into a database record.  If no other kind of information has been stored about 
those parts, or if no relations with other relevant information has been 
programmed into the database, then that information will exist only as a rather 
dull fragment of information that is unrelated to any other information.  And 
the vast majority of people who will read this will quickly forget that parts 
x1332-b and z733-c are somehow related just because it holds so little meaning 
for them.  On the other hand, if I convince you that you should be a little 
more open minded, you might take that thought and apply it to a wide variety of 
situations.  The difference is that a persuasive argument to change the way you 
think about things in general can potentially have a greater effect of 
application than a piece of information concerning some trivial fact that is 
has little meaning to you.



  One of the great things about this theory of the effect of application is 
that it can be modeled in a simple closed artificial system and studied, but it 
can also subsequently be used in an extension of the system.  It is in effect, 
a foundation of conceptual integration, and by recognizing the significance of 
the theory, I believe that some important new areas of research may be 
discovered.  The theory can help advanced students imaginatively discover how 
ideas can play different roles with other ideas and help them to see beyond the 
narrow application of fundamental primitives that dominate (and, in my opinion, 
often disable) current research into AGI.



  Although the theory can be used as a fundamental primitive in simple 
experiments, it can also be used in the definition of extensive conceptual 
systems as well.  It's beauty that it is not just a fundamental piece of 
knowledge; it is also a principle in a theory of conceptualization.  Ideas have 
effects on other ideas.



  Jim Bromer 

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