Steve > Perhaps you can relate your own experiences in this area.
Argument from Authority . . . . but what the heck . . . . :-)
Earliest scientific computing papers (one from the science side, one from the
computing side)
Computer Modeling of Muscle Phosphofructokinase Kinetics
Journal of Theoretical Biology, Volume 103, Issue 2, 21 July 1983, Pages
295-312
Mark R. Waser, Lillian Garfinkel, Michael C. Kohn and David Garfinkel
A Computer Program for Analyzing Enzyme Kinetic Data Using Graphical Display
and Statistical Analysis
Computers and Biomedical Research, Volume 17, Issue 3, June 1984, Pages
289-301
Serge D. Schremmer, Mark R. Waser, Michael C. Kohn and David Garfinkel
Hardware Integration Project - True Omni-font OCR device (1983-1984)
Developed software turning any Apple IIe and any fax machine into a
true Omni-font OCR reader
pages were solved as cryptograms so even *random* fonts were
interpretable
used 6502 assembly; unloaded the Apple IIe operating system as
necessary (memory problems? what memory problems?)
AI Project - Case Method Credit Expert System Shell & Builder (1984-1985)
Developed in Pascal for Citicorp's FastFinance Leasing System
Used by technophobic executives without any problems
AI Project - Expert System for Army Logistics Procurement (1986-1987)
Developed for/Deployed at Fort Belvoir, VA; Presented at Army Logistics
Conference in Williamsburg
Part of the Project Manager's Support System
AI Project - Project Impact Advisor (1986-1987)
Rewrote boss's prototype system implemented in Lisp on special hardware
as a PC-based Prolog system
Part of the Project Manager's Support System
AI/Hardware Project - Neural Network for Diagnosing Thallium Images of the
Heart (1987-1988)
Successfully convinced top Air Force brass that Air Force doctors were
misdiagnosing test pilot check-up images
Used Sigma Neural Network hardware boards
Hardware Project - Fax Network Switch (1990-1991)
Developed for/Deployed by the Australian Government/Embassy for all
traffic between Canberra and Washington
Subsequently sold to Sony
Created multiple terminate-and-stay-resident programs to provide
simultaneous 16-fax and dual T1-modem capability under MS-DOS
Used Brooktrout 4-port fax boards
Hardware Project - Secure Telephone Unit (1991-1992)
Developed initial prototype marrying COTS 80286 motherboard, modem,
and TI TMS C32000 FPU with custom hardware and software
Enhanced and integrated commercially available TI TMS C32000 software
for various voice codecs
Developed all control software (80286 assembly)
Developed all software for debugging custom integrating hardware
developed by other company employees
Hmmm . . . that's not even ten years with over fifteen to go . . . and I'm
boring *myself* to tears despite skipping a bunch of non-relevant stuff . . . .
;-)
Mark>> Good thing that you're smarter than that and know how to trash a machine
so your stuff will work.
Steve> Given that apparently no one else has been able to make commercial
speech-to-text work with real-time AI, I'll accept that as a complement.
You shouldn't have. It was pure sarcasm. You need to look harder at what is
available out there. Real-time speech-to-text is not the problem (though the
accuracy rate is still below what is to be preferred -- a problem which your
solution does *NOT* address). Fitting real-time speech-to-text into a small
enough, friendly enough footprint to work with real-time AI is not the problem
(although *you* do seem to be having problems doing it with a *GOOD*
engineering solution). Coming up with a worthwhile AI is the problem BUT I
haven't seen any sign of such a thing from you.
Steve> It is unclear what happened for you to make your comments in the tone
that you used. On first glance it appears that you simply didn't carefully read
the article. For example, did you notice that Nuance actually has a patent on
how they suck up 100.0% of the CPU, leaving nothing for concurrent AI programs?
How about constructively addressing the technical ISSUES instead of sounding
like an idiot by making snide comments.
If you can't prevent a program from sucking up 100% of your CPU, you aren't
competent to be working at this level. There are *all sorts* of ways to stop
evil behavior like this to include:
a.. pre-allocating memory to yourself (or your AI) before firing up the
offending programming
b.. replacing the operating system pointers to the memory allocation routines
to your routines which will then lie to the offender about the amount of memory
available
c.. working on multiple linked boxes
The kludges that you are resorting to are just plain *BAD* engineering. There
are *ALWAYS* clean work-arounds -- if you're competent enough to find them.
Steve>>> Then there is the fact that Dr. Eliza operates according to principles
that aren't taught in any school and would be unfamiliar without some external
education.
Mark>> Sounds like voodoo to me -- unless you have all this stuff written up so
that you can provide this education (and the education can be validated).
Didn't think so.
Steve> Perhaps you missed the fact that I already posted that I have several
articles that I would gladly send to anyone who requested them. However, there
ARE limits to just how much can be packed into a published article. One of them
even secured special permission to exceed the maximum length limit, when the
WORLDCOMP conference committee couldn't suggest ANY part of it that could be
omitted without damaging the rest of it.
Perhaps I didn't miss the fact that you didn't send me what I requested.
Perhaps I noticed that what you did send me had nothing to do with AI. Perhaps
I noticed that what you sent me was not what I would call competent.
Steve> I am new here, having only made one posting and answered queries to that
posting. However, if this were MY group, I would remove you as a member for
making such snide comments rather than simply explaining your issues and asking
for anything you see is missing, like explanatory articles.
Okay. Is this e-mail clearer? The snide comments were because your arrogant
initial presentation and claims were followed up by an off-topic "paper" that
was inexcusably bad (also known as -- you wasted my time).
Steve> People working in AI/AGI get LOTS of derision from the rest of CS (and
you certainly sound like you come from that extraction) and we certainly don't
need any more here, on what should be a safe forum to express our ideas.
Not all people working in AI/AGI get the derision. Just the crackpots.
For the record, my MSE is in Artificial Intelligence and I've done doctoral
work in Machine Learning and Human Decision-Making. So I'm definitely an
AI/AGI person -- but the source of the derision is my ENGINEERING side (which
is necessary for competent AI/AGI).
If your ideas are good enough, you shouldn't need a safe forum. If you avoid
sounding like an arrogant know-it-all, this *IS* a safe forum. You've merely
been a *TROLL* and gotten the appropriate response. Thanks for playing but we
have no parting gifts for you.
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