I don't agree with Mark Waser that we can "engineer the complexity out of intelligence."
I agree with Richard Loosemore that intelligent systems are intrinsically complex systems in the Santa Fe Institute type sense However, I don't agree with Richard as to the *extent* of the complexity problem. I think he overestimates how hard it will be to roughly estimate the behavior of AGI systems based on their designs and measurement of their components. I think it will be easier to do this with AGI systems than with natural systems, not because we can engineer the complexity out of the systems, but because we (as the designers) understand the systems better, and can measure the systems more thoroughly... -- Ben G On Sun, Apr 27, 2008 at 5:44 PM, Mark Waser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > To the best of my knowledge, nobody has *ever* used "intuitive > > understanding" to second-guess the stability of an artificial complex > > system in which those four factors were all present in the elements in a > > tightly coupled way. > > > > Um, aren;t those exactly the rocks that BioMind foundered on? > > > > > So that is all we have as a reply to the complex systems problem: > > engineers saying that they think they can just use "intuitive > > understanding" to get around it. > > > > Again, not this engineer . . . . I say that we should engineer the > complexity out of it. > > > > > Rots of ruck, as Rastro would say. > > > > We don't need no stinkin' luck . . . . we;ve got foresight, planning, and > engineering > > > > > ------------------------------------------- > agi > Archives: http://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now > RSS Feed: http://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ > Modify Your Subscription: > http://www.listbox.com/member/?&; > Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com > -- Ben Goertzel, PhD CEO, Novamente LLC and Biomind LLC Director of Research, SIAI [EMAIL PROTECTED] "If men cease to believe that they will one day become gods then they will surely become worms." -- Henry Miller ------------------------------------------- agi Archives: http://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: http://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ Modify Your Subscription: http://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=8660244&id_secret=101455710-f059c4 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
