On May 26, 2008, at 3:25 PM, Mark Waser wrote:
Do you truly believe that search engine hits is proportional to the
use of a language or is it just that the valid methods didn't you
give the results that you wanted?
There is no really authoritative source, that was just one method of
many. So let's do job searches in Silicon Valley metro area on Dice
and count the hits:
Java server = 482
C server = 371
Perl server = 256
C++ server = 250
.NET server = 115
PHP server = 108
Python server = 101
Ruby server = 34
Yes, clearly there is *huge* demand for .NET server environments in
Silicon Valley. Again, not scientific but it shows a trend. And while
you do not like the TIOBE results, I cannot help but notice that these
regional results roughly match theirs.
And if we do a similar search in the Washington DC metro, we find
that .NET does integer factors better but still fails to beat Java, C,
et al. So your impression of .NETs ubiquity in your *own* area, while
much better supported, is hardly true in any real sense there either.
Not surprisingly, based on the above trend, Silicon Valley searches
solely based on operating systems:
Unix: 1681
Windows: 956
...with a huge chunk of those Windows jobs being for writing drivers
apparently. Funny that I should be under the impression that the vast
majority of server application targets in Silicon Valley are Unix-based.
Do you have *any* viable facts to back up your silly operating
system assertions?
Which "silly" operating system assertions? That most development
targets in Silicon Valley are web or Unix? That the data centers here
have virtually no Windows servers in them? You assert that is silly,
but you have not provided any "viable facts" to support your
assertion. Even to the extent that my assertions are anecdotal, I have
worked in the data center operations of many, many companies in
Silicon Valley including some of the largest ones, and if you peek
under the hood is just lots and lots of Linux servers for the most
part. But you would not know that sitting in Virginia I suppose.
Just because you are not comfortable with Unix does not mean there is
not a huge swath of the industry that is very comfortable with it and
has it as their sole development target. In fact, in those rare cases
where we needed a bit of Windows software written over the years, we
contracted out to other locales. The talent-pool in the Valley is
definitely Unix- and web-centric, and the ubiquity of the Mac as a
development environment reflects that.
Do you so desperately need to rationalize the .NET platform for an
open source project that you refuse to accept what is plainly obvious
to those actually on the ground? If I were you, I would have simply
stated that my desire to use a particular narrow platform for a
variety of reasons outweighed my need to maximize developer reach and
be done with it. If you had stated it like that, I would have no
argument.
Cheers,
J. Andrew Rogers
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