> From: Matt Mahoney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > --- On Sun, 6/1/08, John G. Rose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > AI has a long way to go to thwart CAPTCHAs altogether. > > There are math CAPTCHAs (MAPTCHAs), 3-D CAPTCHAs, image rec CAPTCHAs, > > audio and I can think > > of some that are quite difficult for AI. Actually coming up > > with new CAPTCHAs would be a neat AI subproject, as well as > > thwarting existing ones. > > I think security is going to be a driving force behind AI development. > You can see which way this is heading. It is a scruffy approach, no > grand theories, just a series of hacks and incremental improvements on > both sides to get the job done. Ultimately all CAPTCHAs will fail and we > will need AI to detect malicious activity downstream. > > > > > Does that have anything to do with consciousness? > > > > What's the test for consciousness? > > > > > > I think the way you are using the term, it is the Turing test. > > > > > > > Are you sure? Isn't that supposed to just differentiate > > between computer and human? Not between unconscious and > > conscious? Unless you think consciousness is just belief... > > Yes. A CAPTCHA is a cheap Turing test. Whether a machine "thinks" or is > conscious is just an irrelevant distraction that Turing wanted to avoid.
OK How about this. A CAPTCHA that combines human audio and visual illusion that evokes a realtime reaction only in a conscious physical human. Can audio visual illusion be used as a test for consciousness? Could it be used to evoke a specific conscious-only reaction in a human mind? Hmm... John ------------------------------------------- agi Archives: http://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: http://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ Modify Your Subscription: http://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=8660244&id_secret=103754539-40ed26 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
