On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 3:36 AM, Steve Richfield
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> ... and here we have the makings of AGI run amok...
> My point..  it is usually possible to make EVERYONE happy with the results, 
> but only with a process that roots out the commonly held invalid assumptions. 
> Like Gort (the very first movie AGI?) in The Day The Earth Stood Still, the 
> goal is peace, but NOT through any particular set of detailed goals.

I think it's important to distinguish between supervised and
unsupervised AGIs. For the supervised, top-level golas as well as the
sub-goal restrictions can be volatile - basically whatever the guy in
charge wants ATM (not neccessarily trying to make EVERYONE happy). In
that case, AGI should IMO just attempt to find the simplest solution
to a given problem while following the given rules, without exercising
its own sense of morality (assuming it even has one). The guy
(/subject) in charge is the god who should use his own sense of
good/bad/safe/unsafe, produce the rules to follow during AGI's
solution search and judge/approve/reject the solution so he is the one
who bears responsibility for the outcome. He also maintains the rules
for what the AGI can/cannot do for "lower-level" users (if any). Such
AGIs will IMO be around for a while. *Much* later, we might go for
human-unsupervised AGIs. I suspect that at that time (if it ever
happens), people's goals/needs/desires will be a lot more
unified/compatible (so putting together some grand schema for
goals/rules/morality will be more straight forward) and the AGIs (as
well as its multi-layer and probably highly-redundant security
controls) will be extremely well tested = highly unlikely to "run
amok" and probably much safer than the previous human-factor-plagued
problem solving hybrid-solutions. People are more interested in
pleasure than in messing with terribly complicated problems.

Regards,
Jiri Jelinek
*** Problems for AIs, work for robots, feelings for us. ***


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