Sure, search is at the root of all processing, be it human or AI. How we each go about the search, and how efficient we are at the task are different, and what exactly we are searching for, and exponential explosion.
But some type of search is done, whether we are consciously aware of our brains doing the search or not. Given a bit of context information about the question should allow us to use some heuristics to look at a smaller area of knowledge bases in our brains, or in a computer's memory. Having a list of "things we dont know" is nonsensical as has been pointed out, when it comes to individual terms, but something like a aggregate estimate of knowledge known could be computed. I myself know a little about baseball .... say 10%, but baseball history and world series statistics would be more like 0.1% James Ratcliff --- On Tue, 7/29/08, Brad Paulsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: James, So, you agree that some sort of search must take place before the "feeling of not knowing" presents itself? Of course, "realizing we don't have a lot of information" results from some type of a search and not a separate process (at least you didn't posit any). Thanks for your comments! Cheers Brad James Ratcliff wrote: > It is fairly simple at that point, we have enough context to have a very > limited domain > world series - baseball > 1924 > answer is a team, > so we can do a lookup in our database easily enough, or realize that we > really dont have a lot of information about baseball in our mindset. > > And for the other one, it would just be a strait term match. > > James Ratcliff > > _______________________________________ > James Ratcliff - http://falazar.com > Looking for something... > > --- On *Mon, 7/28/08, Brad Paulsen /<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>/* wrote: > > From: Brad Paulsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [agi] How do we know we don't know? > To: [email protected] > Date: Monday, July 28, 2008, 4:12 PM > > Jim Bromer wrote: > > On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 2:58 PM, Brad Paulsen > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> All, > >> What does fomlepung mean? > >> > >> If your immediate (mental) response was "I don't know." > it means you're not > >> a slang-slinging Norwegian. But, how did your brain produce that > "feeling > >> of not knowing"? And, how did it produce that feeling so fast? > >> > >> Your brain may have been able to do a massively-parallel search of > your > >> entire memory and > come up "empty." But, if it does this, > it's subconscious. > >> No one to whom I've presented the above question has reported a > conscious > >> "feeling of searching" before having the conscious feeling > of not knowing. > >> > >> Brad > > > > My guess that initial recognition must be based on the surface > > features of an input. If this is true, then that could suggest that > > our initial recognition reactions are stimulated by distinct > > components (or distinct groupings of components) that are found in the > > surface input data. > > Jim Bromer > > > > > Hmmm. That particular query may not have been the best example since, to a > non-Norwegian speaker, the phonological surface feature of that statement alone > > could account for the "feeling of not knowing." In other words, the > word > "fomlepung" just "doesn't sound right." Good point. > But, that may only > explain > how we know we don't know "strange sounding" words. > > Let's try another example: > > Which team won the 1924 World Series? > > Cheers, > > Brad > > > ------------------------------------------- > > agi > > Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now > > RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ > > Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?&; > > Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com > > > > > ------------------------------------------- > agi > Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now > RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ > Modify Your Subscription: > https://www.listbox.com/member/?&; > Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *agi* | Archives <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now> > <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/> | Modify > <https://www.listbox.com/member/?&;> > Your Subscription [Powered by Listbox] <http://www.listbox.com> > ------------------------------------------- agi Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?&; Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com ------------------------------------------- agi Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=8660244&id_secret=108809214-a0d121 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
