David Hart wrote:
On 8/2/08, *Richard Loosemore* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:

    Thus:  in my paper there is a quote from a book in which Conway's
    efforts were described, and it is transparently clear from this
    quote that the method Conway used was random search:


I believe this statement misinterprets the quote and severely underestimates the amount of thought and design inherent in Conway's invention. In my option, the stochastic search methodologies (practiced mainly by his students) can be considred 'tuning/improvement/tweaking' and NOT themselves part of the high-level conceptual design. But, this topic is a subjective interpretation rabbithole that is probably not worth pursuing further.

No, not at all.

Conway is still alive, you know.  Why doesn't somebody ask him?

I defend what I say to the hilt. Conway and his helpers knew what target they were aiming for (they decided on one aspect of the global behavior before time), but I believe they did nothing at all besides try various possibilities until one of them worked.

I can find no evidence, anywhere, of any theorems, or any mathematical analysis that allowed them to target a specific set of rules that would give them the birth-death ratio that they were looking for.

If anyone does believe that they did some analysis to achieve this goal, the onus is on them to find it. Failing all else, ask Conway himself.

It is not good enough for people to go around making wild allegations (as Linas did yesterday), without any supporting evidence, and then for me to produce apparently clear counter-evidence, only to have it dismissed by some vague suggestion that perhaps I may have misinterpreted the evidence.



Richard Loosemore


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