Yes, I was a member of the SL4 list in its glory days ... and as I recall
the sniping had its plusses and minuses.

It did cut off some useless and irrelevant threads, which was good.  On the
other hand, I felt it was often used in an overenthusiastic and
nonoptimally-biased way, which sometimes squelched views dissenting from
those of the list owner and his close collaborators.

I note that I was never or almost never sniped on that list, so my opinion
here is not a matter of personal resentment...

There were some really great SL4 threads back in the day, among all the
noise, but that really wasn't due to the sniping, it was more a matter of
who was active on the list at that particular time, and where they were in
their relevant  processes of idea-development...

Anyway I don't condemn the sniping approach but it's not really my vision of
the AGI list.

On the OpenCog list I am following more of a sniping-type approach, in that
I'm sniping threads that are not directly relevant to the details of
OpenCog-based AGI development.  But that list is intended to be more
focused, whereas this one is intended to be more inclusive.

-- Ben

On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 2:32 PM, David Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> I have read the SL4 list for at least 7 years and the "snipper based"
> moderation has more to do with who you are, rather than what you post.
>
> If you are not one of the "choosen", then almost anything you say can and
> will be used to justify it not being an SL4 level topic. (The list has been
> quite slow for quite a while now and the snipers have been snoozing for
> just
> as long so I am referring to when the SL4 list had 50 plus emails a day)
>
> I would rather delete the posts I don't find interesting than be snipped,
> as
> many posts used to be on SL4.
>
> -- David Clark
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Matt Mahoney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: August-03-08 11:25 AM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: [agi] META: do we need a stronger "politeness code" on
> > this list?
> >
> > I think the "sniper based" moderation policy for SL4 works pretty well
> > and might be appropriate for this list. http://www.sl4.org/intro.html
> >
> >  -- Matt Mahoney, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
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