Brad:
Sigh. Your point of view is heavily biased by the unspoken assumption that AGI
must be Turing-indistinguishable from humans.  That it must be AGHI.

Brad,

Literally: "what on earth are you talking about?" What other than human intelligence - symbol & sign-using intelligence - is there? (& a few Washoe chimps - & computer extensions of the brain).

I & you can *vaguely* understand the *concept* of an alternative *non-human* or *alien intelligence*, but it's a totally ungrounded concept, like *flying pigs.* You can't point to a single operational example of what you mean. living or mechanical. Nor, I suggest, do you or anyone else have an example of what you mean - nobody's thought it through. It comes down to the same as "we don't need no stinking grounding." It's not an affirmation of something solid, merely a rejection of the hard work of having to understand how human intelligence - and especially general intelligence - works.

In general, I suggest - in fact, I'm quite sure - human intelligence should be taken as *ideal*. Not perfect, not unimprovable-on. But v.g. and usually the best available, however flawed it may at first appear. The product of the odd billion years of dealing with certain problems - and v. sophisticated. Before you can do better, you have to understand how it works. Especially you have to understand how GI works - how the human brain creates concepts, metaphors, creative ideas, creative generalizations. And at the moment, you - the AGI community - don't understand a single aspect of GI, or have a single idea/proposal that even *addresses* any aspect. (Ben's promised a paper with an idea, at last, but it's in the post).

[I'm v. happy & interested to consider animal/robotic intelligence & forms of culture - but I take it that your concepts of non-human intelligence all involve symbol use].



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