Ben,

I clearly understood/understand this. My point is:  are you guys' notions of 
non-human intelligence anything more than sci-fi fantasy as opposed to serious 
invention? To be the latter, you must have some half-concrete ideas - however 
skimpy - of what such intelligence might entail and be different from ours. For 
example, would-be flying machine inventors, had some ideas of what such a 
machine might entail - wings or wheels or propellor - and would function (even 
if mistaken).And they obviously knew the difference between land and air-based 
travel. I'm questioning whether y'all have any remotely serious idea at all of 
what a non-human intelligence entails - as distinct from purely negative ideas 
about what parts of human intelligence you *don't* want to use/copy, and 
ethereal ideas about how an AGI will be "much more" intelligent. AFAICT every 
AGI project is actually very, very humanoid.
  Brad:

    Sigh.  Your point of view is heavily biased by the unspoken assumption that 
AGI
    must be Turing-indistinguishable from humans.  That it must be AGHI.


    Brad,

    Literally: "what on earth are you talking about?" What other than human 
intelligence - symbol & sign-using intelligence - is there? (& a few Washoe 
chimps - & computer extensions of the brain).



  He is talking about making something that does not yet exist, just as 
airplanes and computer chips did not exist before they were first  made.

  -- Ben G




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