yes. This is one of the reasons why I like "virtual world and game AI" as a commercial vehicle for the popularization and monetization of early-stage AGI's.
No one cares that much if a game AI occasionally does something dumb. It may even be considered charmingly funny. Much more so than if the AI is ,say, a financial trader, a credit card fraud detector, a car driver or a fighter pilot ;-p As you note, applications where reliability is key are extremely inappropriate for early-stage AGI Scientific discovery is another application area where errors are extremely tolerable... ben g On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 5:44 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > me: > >> And I've said it before, but it bears repeating in this context. Real > >> intelligence requires that mistakes be made. And that's at odds with > >> regular programming, because you are trying to write programs that don't > >> make mistakes, so I have to wonder how serious people really would be > >> about pursuing intelligence in a machine if they really knew what's > >> involved. > >> andi > > > > > > > Ben: > > It's not true -- we are NOT trying to make programs that don't make > > mistakes > > ... we're trying to write minimally buggy software, but we're not trying > > to > > prevent our software from making mistakes when learning things > > > > Similarly, you don't mind making mistakes yourself when learning, but you > > would rather your brain did not fall prey to "wetware bugs" and get > > epilepsy > > or Alzheimers etc. ... > > > > -- Ben G > > > Well, I'm thinking of Joe Average commercial software developer (like me). > And even if you know that errors can't be avoided, programmers are still > at least shooting for not making any errors. That's just a different > mindset from an AGI system where you know there are going to have to be > errors. And why it's important is that people have expectations about how > computers will work, and their feeling when something goes wrong is that > it's a bad thing, and not a natural and necessary thing. I'm just afraid > of the non-technical people being surprised and unhappy when it happens. > Funding and support questions and all. > andi > > > > ------------------------------------------- > agi > Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now > RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ > Modify Your Subscription: > https://www.listbox.com/member/?& > Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com > -- Ben Goertzel, PhD CEO, Novamente LLC and Biomind LLC Director of Research, SIAI [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Nothing will ever be attempted if all possible objections must be first overcome " - Dr Samuel Johnson ------------------------------------------- agi Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=8660244&id_secret=108809214-a0d121 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
