On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 1:26 AM, Terren Suydam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > If an AGI played because it recognized that it would improve its skills > in some domain, then I wouldn't call that play, I'd call it practice. Those > are overlapping but distinct concepts. > > Play, as distinct from pactice, is its own reward - the reward felt by a > kitten. The spirit of Mike's question, I think, was about identifying the > essential goalless-ness of play, the sense in which playing fosters > adaptivity of goals. If you really want to interpret goal-satisfaction in > play, > it must be a meta-goal of mastering one's environment - and that is such > a broadly defined goal that I don't see how one could specify it to a seed > AI. I believe that's why evolution used the "trick" of making it fun. >
What do you mean by "trick"? Fun of playing is evolutionary encoded, no tricks. You can try to encode it into a seed AI by adding a reference to an actual kitten in a right way, saying "fun is that thing over there!" without saying what it is explicitly, and providing this AI with a kitten. How to do it technically is of course a Friendly AI-complete problem, but its solution doesn't need to include all the fine points of the fun concept itself. On this subject, see: http://www.overcomingbias.com/2008/08/mirrors-and-pai.html -- in what sense AI can be as a mirror for complex concept instead of a pencil sketch explicitly hacked together by programmers; http://www.overcomingbias.com/2008/08/unnatural-categ.html -- why morality concept needs to be transferred in all details, and can't be learned from few examples; http://www.overcomingbias.com/2008/08/computations.html -- what a real-life concept may look like. -- Vladimir Nesov [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://causalityrelay.wordpress.com/ ------------------------------------------- agi Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=8660244&id_secret=111637683-c8fa51 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
