That's a fair criticism. I did explain what I mean by embodiment in a previous 
post, and what I mean by autonomy in the article of mine I referenced. But I do 
recognize that in both cases there is still some ambiguity, so I will withdraw 
the question until I can formulate it in more concise terms. 

Terren

--- On Tue, 8/26/08, Vladimir Nesov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> This is fuzzy, mysterious and frustrating. Unless you
> *functionally*
> explain what you mean by autonomy and embodiment, the
> conversation
> degrades to a kind of meaningless philosophy that occupied
> some smart
> people for thousands of years without any results.
> 
> -- 
> Vladimir Nesov
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://causalityrelay.wordpress.com/
> 
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