--- On Tue, 10/21/08, Dr. Matthias Heger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Sorry, but this was no proof that a natural language
> understanding system is
> necessarily able to solve the equation x*3 = y for
> arbitrary y.
> 
> 1) You have not shown that a language understanding system
> must necessarily(!) have made statistical experiences on the
> equation x*3 =y.

A language model is a probability distribution P over text of human origin. If 
you can compute P(x) for given text string x, then you can pass the Turing test 
because for any question Q and answer A you can compute P(A|Q) = P(QA)/P(Q) 
using the same distribution that a human would use to answer the question. This 
includes any math questions that the average human could answer.

> 2) you give only a few examples. For a proof of the claim,
> you have to prove it for every(!) y.

You originally allowed *any* y. To quote your earlier email:

> > For instance, I doubt that anyone can prove that
> > any system which understands natural language is
> > necessarily able to solve
> > the simple equation x *3 = y for a given y.

Anyway I did the experiment for y = 12. You can try the experiment for other 
values of y if you wish. Let me know what happens.

> 3) you apply rules such as 5 * 7 = 35 -> 35 / 7 = 5 but
> you have not shown that
> 3a) that a language understanding system necessarily(!) has
> this rules
> 3b) that a language understanding system necessarily(!) can
> apply such rules

It must have the rules and apply them to pass the Turing test.

-- Matt Mahoney, [EMAIL PROTECTED]



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