Yeah, but these programs did not learn to play via playing other computer players or studying the rules of the game ... they use alpha-beta pruning combined with heuristic evaluation functions carefully crafted by human chess experts ... i.e. they are created based on human knowledge about playing human players...
I do think that a sufficiently clever AGI should be able to learn to play chess very well based on just studying the rules. However, it's notable that **either no, or almost no, humans have ever done this** ... so it would require a quite high level of intelligence in this domain... ben g On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 7:25 PM, Dr. Matthias Heger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Just now there is a world championship in chess. My chess programs (e.g. > Fritz 11) can give a ranking for all moves given an arbitrary chess > position. > > The program agrees with the grandmasters which moves are in the top 5. In > most situations it even agrees which move is the best one. > > Thus, human style chess of top grandmasters and computer chess are quite > the same today. > > > > - Matthias > > > > > > > > *Von:* Ben Goertzel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > *Gesendet:* Freitag, 24. Oktober 2008 00:41 > *An:* [email protected] > *Betreff:* Re: [agi] If your AGI can't learn to play chess it is no AGI > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 5:38 PM, Trent Waddington < > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 6:11 PM, Dr. Matthias Heger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > I am sure that everyone who learns chess by playing against chess > computers > > and is able to learn good chess playing (which is not sure as also not > > > everyone can learn to be a good mathematician) will be able to be a good > > chess player against humans. > > And you're wrong. > > > Trent > > > > Yes ... at the moment the styles of human and computer chess players are > different enough that doing well against computer players does not imply > doing nearly equally well against human players ... though it certainly > helps a lot ... > > ben g > > > ------------------------------ > > *agi* | Archives <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now> > <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/>| > Modify<https://www.listbox.com/member/?&;>Your Subscription > > <http://www.listbox.com> > > > ------------------------------ > *agi* | Archives <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now> > <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/> | > Modify<https://www.listbox.com/member/?&;>Your Subscription > <http://www.listbox.com> > -- Ben Goertzel, PhD CEO, Novamente LLC and Biomind LLC Director of Research, SIAI [EMAIL PROTECTED] "A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects." -- Robert Heinlein ------------------------------------------- agi Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=8660244&id_secret=117534816-b15a34 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
