On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 11:19 AM, Ed Porter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You said "QUANTUM THEORY REALLY HAS NOTHING DIRECTLY TO DO WITH
> UNCOMPUTABILITY."

Please don't quote people using this style, it hurts my eyes.

> But quantum theory does appear to be directly related to limits of the
> computations of physical reality.  The uncertainty theory and the
> quantization of quantum states are limitations on what can be computed by
> physical reality.

I don't even know what you're saying here.  Maybe you're trying to say
that it takes a really big computer to compute a very small box of
physical reality.. which is true.. I just don't know why you would be
saying that.

> You said " IT IS CERTAINLY THINKABLE THAT THE BRAIN IS INFINITE NOT FINITE
> IN ITS INFORMATION CONTENT, OR THAT IT'S A SORT OF "ANTENNA" THAT RECEIVES
> INFORMATION FROM SOME INFINITE-INFORMATION-CONTENT SOURCE "
>
> This certainly is "thinkable."  And that is a non-trivial statement.  We
> should never forget that our concepts of reality could be nothing but
> illusions, and that our understanding of science and physical reality may be
> much more partial and flawed than we think.

It's also completely unscientific.  You might as well say that magic
pixies deliver your thoughts from big invisible bucket made of gold.

> But, I am old fashioned enough to be more interested in things about the
> brain and AGI that are supported by what would traditionally be considered
> "scientific evidence" or by what can be reasoned or designed from such
> evidence.

So why are you entertaining notions of magic antennas to God?

> If there is any thing that would fit under those headings to support the
> notion of the brain either being infinite, or being an antenna that receives
> decodable information from some infinite-information-content source, I would
> love to hear it.

I wouldn't.  It's untestable non-sense.

Trent


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