Ed,

That's a good point about synapses, but perhaps the methylation just affects 
the neuron's output, e.g., the targeted genes express proteins that only find a 
functional role in the axon.

Terren

--- On Wed, 12/3/08, Ed Porter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Richard,
> 
> The role played by the epigenome in genetics actually does
> have a slightly
> Lamarckian tinge.  Nova had a show saying that when
> identical twins are born
> their epigenomes are very similar, but that as they age
> their epigenomes
> start to differ more an more, and that certain behaviors
> like drinking or
> smoking can increase the rate at which such changes take
> place.
> 
> What I didn't understand about the article you linked
> to is that it appears
> they are changing the epigenome to change the expression of
> DNA, but as far
> as I know DNA only appears in the nucleus (with the
> exception of
> mitochondirial DNA), and thus would appear to affect the
> cell as a whole,
> and thus not be good at differentially affecting the
> strengths of different
> synapses --- as would presumably be required for most
> neuronal memory ---
> unless the nuclear DNA had some sort of mapping to
> individual synapses, or
> unless local changes to mitochondrial DNA, near a synapse
> are involved.  The
> article does not appear to shed in any light on this issue
> of how changes in
> the expression of DNA would affect learning at the synapse
> level, where most
> people think it occurs.
> 
> Ed Porter
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Richard Loosemore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 11:12 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [agi] Lamarck Lives!(?)
> 
> 
> Am I right in thinking that what these people:
> 
> http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20026845.000-memories-may-be-stored-on
> -your-dna.html 
> 
> 
> are saying is that memories can be stored as changes in the
> DNA inside 
> neurons?
> 
> If so, that would upset a few apple carts.
> 
> Would it mean that memories (including cultural
> adaptations) could be 
> passed from mother to child?
> 
> Implication for neuroscientists proposing to build a WBE
> (whole brain 
> emulation):  the resolution you need may now have to
> include all the DNA 
> in every neuron.  Any bets on when they will have the
> resolution to do that?
> 
> 
> 
> Richard Loosemore
> 
> 
> 
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