There has been an ongoing presumption that more "brain" (or computer) means
more intelligence. I would like to question that underlying presumption.

That being the case, why don't elephants and other large creatures have
really gigantic brains? This seems to be SUCH an obvious evolutionary step.

There are all sorts of network-destroying phenomena that rise from complex
networks, e.g. phase shift oscillators there circular analysis paths enforce
themselves, computational noise is endlessly analyzed, etc. We know that our
own brains are just barely stable, as flashing lights throw some people into
epileptic attacks, etc. Perhaps network stability is the intelligence
limiter? If so, then we aren't going to get anywhere without first fully
understanding it.

Suppose for a moment that theoretically perfect neurons could work in a
brain of limitless size, but their imperfections accumulate (or multiply) to
destroy network operation when you get enough of them together. Brains have
grown larger because neurons have evolved to become more nearly perfect,
without having yet (or ever) reaching perfection. Hence, evolution may have
struck a "balance", where less intelligence directly impairs survivability,
and greater intelligence impairs network stability, and hence indirectly
impairs survivability.

If the above is indeed the case, then AGI and related efforts don't stand a
snowball's chance in hell of ever outperforming humans, UNTIL the underlying
network stability theory is well enough understood to perform perfectly to
digital precision. This wouldn't necessarily have to address all aspects of
intelligence, but would at minimum have to address large-scale network
stability.

One possibility is chopping large networks into pieces, e.g. the hemispheres
of our own brains. However, like multi-core CPUs, there is work for only so
many CPUs/hemispheres.

There are some medium-scale network similes in the world, e.g. the power
grid. However, there they have high-level central control and lots of
crashes, so there may not be much to learn from them.

Note in passing that I am working with some non-AGIers on power grid
stability issues. While not fully understood, the primary challenge appears
(to me) to be that the various control mechanisms (that includes humans in
the loop) violate a basic requirement for feedback stability, namely, that
the frequency response not drop off faster then 12db/octave at any
frequency. Present control systems make binary all-or-nothing decisions that
produce astronomical high-frequency components (edges and glitches) related
to much lower-frequency phenomena (like overall demand). Other systems then
attempt to deal with these edges and glitches, with predictable poor
results. Like the stock market crash of May 6, there is a list of dates of
major outages and near-outages, where the failures are poorly understood. In
some cases, the lights stayed on, but for a few seconds came ever SO close
to a widespread outage that dozens of articles were written about them, with
apparently no one understanding things even to the basic level that I am
explaining here.

Hence, a single theoretical insight might guide both power grid development
and AGI development. For example, perhaps there is a necessary capability of
components in large networks, to be able to custom tailor their frequency
response curves to not participate on unstable operation?

I wonder, does the very-large-scale network problem even have a prospective
solution? Is there any sort of existence proof of this?

My underlying thought here is that we may all be working on the wrong
problems. Instead of working on the particular analysis methods (AGI) or
self-organization theory (NN), perhaps if someone found a solution to
large-network stability, then THAT would show everyone the ways to their
respective goals.

Does anyone here know of a good starting point to understanding large-scale
network stability?

Any thoughts?

Steve



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