On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 11:42 AM, Mike Tintner <[email protected]>wrote:
> Ben: I don't agree that solving vision and the vision-cognition bridge is > *such* a huge part of AGI, though it's certainly a nontrivial percentage > > Presumably because you don't envisage your AGI/computer as an independent > entity? All its info. is going to have to be entered into it in a specially > prepared form - and it's still going to be massively and continuously > dependent on human programmers? > I envisage my AGI as an independent entity, ingesting information from the world in a similar manner to how humans do (as well as through additional senses not available to humans) You misunderstood my statement. I think that vision and the vision-cognition bridge are important for AGI, but I think they're only a moderate portion of the problem, and not the hardest part... > > Humans and real AGI's receive virtually all their info. - certainly all > their internet info - through heavily visual processing (with obvious > exceptions like sound). You can't do maths and logic if you can't see them, > and they have visual forms - equations and logic have visual form and use > visual ideogrammatic as well as visual numerical signs. > > Just wh. intelligent problemsolving operations is your AGI going to do, > that do NOT involve visual processing OR - the alternative - massive human > assistance to substitute for that processing? > > *agi* | Archives <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now> > <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/> | > Modify<https://www.listbox.com/member/?&;>Your Subscription > <http://www.listbox.com> > -- Ben Goertzel, PhD CEO, Novamente LLC and Biomind LLC CTO, Genescient Corp Vice Chairman, Humanity+ Advisor, Singularity University and Singularity Institute External Research Professor, Xiamen University, China [email protected] "I admit that two times two makes four is an excellent thing, but if we are to give everything its due, two times two makes five is sometimes a very charming thing too." -- Fyodor Dostoevsky ------------------------------------------- agi Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=8660244&id_secret=8660244-6e7fb59c Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
