On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 17:52, Aaron Goldfein <aarongoldf...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 6:41 PM, Sean Hunt <ride...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Sean Hunt wrote:
>> > Ed Murphy wrote:
>> >> Detail: http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/viewcase.php?cfj=2545
>> >>
>> >> =========================  Criminal Case 2545
>> >>  =========================
>> >>
>> >>     Yally violated Rule 2143, committing the Class-6 Crim of Making
>> >>     My Eyes Bleed, by means of publishing eir most recent IADoP's
>> >>     report in HTML.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ========================================================================
>> >>
>> >> Caller:                                 ais523
>> >> Barred:                                 Yally
>> >>
>> >> Judge:                                  coppro
>> >> Judgement:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ========================================================================
>> >>
>> >> History:
>> >>
>> >> Called by ais523:                       28 May 2009 03:11:41 GMT
>> >> Defendant Yally informed:               28 May 2009 03:11:41 GMT
>> >> Assigned to coppro:                     (as of this message)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ========================================================================
>> >>
>> >> Caller's Arguments:
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, 2009-05-27 at 21:09 -0600, Sean Hunt wrote:
>> >>> I publish an NoV alleging that Yally violated Rule 2143, committing
>> >>> the
>> >>> Class-6 Crim of Making My Eyes Bleed, by means of publishing eir most
>> >>> recent IADoP's report in HTML.
>> >>>
>> >>> I contest this NoV.
>> >> I CFJ on this; the issue of whether MIME messages containing both
>> >> plaintext and HTML are legal is a rather important one, and I think it
>> >> should go through the courts.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ========================================================================
>> >>
>> >> Gratuitous Arguments by Yally:
>> >>
>> >> Regardless of my guilt or innocence on the matter, I believe that if I
>> >> am
>> >> found guilty, it would be fundamentally unjust for any sentencing other
>> >> than
>> >> DISMISS as it is standard for gmail to use MIME and I cannot undo MIME
>> >> and
>> >> simultaneously submit reports in fixed width font.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ========================================================================
>> >
>> > First, I will establish whether or not Yally is guilty.
>> >
>> > For a verdict of GUILTY, all of the conditions outlined in R1504 must be
>> > met.
>> >
>> >   (a) the Accused breached the specified rule via the specified act.
>> >
>> > In Yally's case, e published eir report, entitled [IADoP] Office Report,
>> > in both HTML and plain text through the use of a MIME multipart message.
>> > Rule 2143 states that
>> >       Reports SHALL be published in plain text.  Tabular data must
>> >       line up properly when viewed in a monospaced font.  Publishing
>> >       reports that deviate from these regulations is the Class 6 Crime
>> >       of Making My Eyes Bleed.
>> > In particular, it is not the failure to publish a plaintext report that
>> > is the crime; it is the publication of a non-plaintext report. The
>> > archives make it clear that Yally's message in fact included two
>> > separate reports: one in plaintext that conforms except in a trivial
>> > manner (in the Weekly reports section, the Promotor and Conductor lines
>> > are indented by one space), and one in HTML consisting of what is
>> > largely believed to be the same content, though I have not verified it.
>> > The second one is not readable plain text, which vilolates the
>> > regulations put forth in R2143 and thus constitues the Crime of Making
>> > My Eyes Bleed.
>> >
>> > As such, I find this condition satisfied.
>> >
>> >   (b) the breach occurred withing 90 days prior to the case being
>> >       initiated.
>> >
>> > I find this condition satisfied, no arguments necessary.
>> >
>> >   (c) judgement has not already been reached in another criminal case,
>> >       or punishment already applied through another uncontested notice
>> >       of violation, with the same Accused, the same rule, and
>> >       substantially the same alleged act.
>> >
>> > I find this condition satisfied, no arguments necessary.
>> >
>> >   (d) the Accused could not have reasonably believed that the alleged
>> >       act did not violate the specified rule.
>> >
>> > This could present a valid defense. Yally may not have been aware that
>> > his email client was publishing in HTML as well as plain text as the
>> > reports are largely indistinguishable. However, given that complaints
>> > had repeatedly been raised and instructions given to Yally regarding the
>> > delivery of emails in text form from eir specific mail client, and the
>> > ease by which the verification of content sent to the lists can be
>> > performed (see my recent test message to a-d), I find that it would have
>> > been reasonable for Yally to be aware that eir emails were being sent in
>> > multipart form.
>> >
>> > Furthermore, the fact that Yally may not have known that a multipart
>> > email violated the rules is immaterial. Ignorance of the law is not a
>> > defense except when it is genuinely unreasonable to expect the person to
>> > know the law - given that this rule is new, it is expected that every
>> > player would have read the Assessor's results posting, which includes
>> > the text of new rules.
>> >
>> > As such, I find this condition satisfied.
>> >
>> >   (e) the Accused could have reasonably avoided committing the breach
>> >       without committing a different breach of equal or greater
>> >       severity.
>> >
>> > The only possible more severe breach would be the Crime of Endorsing
>> > Forgery. There was no reason that ratification without objection needed
>> > to be related in the publication of any report - doubly so given that
>> > the most substantial part of the IADoP's report is self-ratifying.
>> >
>> > As such, I find this condition satisfied.
>> >
>> > Accordingly with my findings, I assign a judgment of GUILTY.
>> >
>> > Now, I shall assign a sentence. In considering the appropriate sentence,
>> > there are two vital factors to consider.
>> >
>> > The first is that Yally did not breach the spirit of the law but only
>> > the text. E did simultaneously publish a text-only report as specified
>> > by the rule, and the illegal HTML report did conform to the requirements
>> > specified by the rules.
>> >
>> > The second is that it would have been trivial for Yally to submit a
>> > report in plain text. As has been demonstrated by the numerous other
>> > reports, all published only in plain text (several of whom use GMail,
>> > though I do not know which officers, if any, normally submit messages
>> > through the GMail web interface); by the instructions given by root as
>> > to causing the GMail web interface to submit messages only in plain
>> > text; and by the test message to a-d I sent from the GMail web interface
>> > for the purpose of determining whether or not it was possible to send a
>> > message via that interface in plain text - the archives verify that it
>> > is - it is clear that it would not have been much extra effort for Yally
>> > to compose eir reports in plain text.
>> >
>> > As such, I feel that a compromise is warranted. While I feel that
>> > APOLOGY is too light a punishment for an easy-to-avoid act for which the
>> > ninny has repeatedly been reprimanded pending the new, legislation, 6
>> > Rests is far too harsh given the ninny's efforts toward conformance.
>> >
>> > As such, I set the fine for this case at 3 Rests (the minimum possible),
>> > having already received sufficient support, I judge SILENCE, and I spend
>> > C# to destroy one of Yally's Rests as 3 is still disproportionate.
>> >
>> > Court is adjourned.
>> >
>> > -coppro
>>
>> Err... I spend C# C# to destroy one of Yally's Rests.
>
> I intend, with two support, to appeal this judgment. While I mostly accept
> Judge coppro's arguments, I do not agree entirely.
>
>>
>>  (d) the Accused could not have reasonably believed that the alleged
>>      act did not violate the specified rule.
>>
>>  (e) the Accused could have reasonably avoided committing the breach
>>      without committing a different breach of equal or greater
>>      severity.
>
>
> At the time I submitted that report, I was fully aware of this rule but I
> also legitamately thought that I was not breaching it. From my point of
> view, I don't have very many options. There is a plaintext option in Gmail,
> but selecting this removes any capabilities to change fonts or fontspacing,
> meaning I am stuck with a variable width font. Even now I'm unsure how to
> satisfy both the plaintext and monospaced requirements and, without some
> help, I'll probably break this rule again.

Compose your reports in notepad, and then paste them into gmail's text
only format. That's what I do and it's always worked for me.

BobTHJ

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