On 14 Aug 2013, at 22:25, Craig Daniel <teu...@pobox.com> wrote: > On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 5:17 PM, Kerim Aydin <ke...@u.washington.edu> wrote: >> >> >> On Wed, 14 Aug 2013, Charles Walker wrote: >>> On 14 Aug 2013, at 22:14, Craig Daniel <teu...@pobox.com> wrote: >>> >>>> On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 5:12 PM, Charles Walker >>>> <charles.w.wal...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> On 14 Aug 2013, at 22:06, Craig Daniel <teu...@pobox.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I'd suggest the same, if I were an elder and thus empowered to do so. >>>>>> (I'd've even suggested it after Sam, who might after all turn out to >>>>>> be a real person who for some reason just happens to share an e-mail >>>>>> address with Walker.) >>>>> >>>>> Sam is a real person, who happens to be in my house and who used my email >>>>> address to save me from logging out. (And because I wasn't sure whether >>>>> only subscribers could post to the lists.) >>>> >>>> Convincing people who did not previously play to sign up for the lists >>>> long enough to post is not especially hard. (Just ask Will and Ian.) >>> >>> Maybe so, but if they don't bother to subscribe, they're still people. >> >> Again, given the nature of the convincing, CFJ 1856 is relevant regardless >> of whether email is independent. > > I suggest contacting* Will, Ian, and Sam, and asking the three of them > about the manner in which they were persuaded to take their various > actions. You'll find Will and Ian acted of their own free will rather > than because they were under any contractual obligation to do so, and > their behaving according to a request from a friend is no different > from how established players often collaborate. I'm sure you would > find similar things about Sam, if you had any way of contacting em > other than by talking to Walker.
I can confirm that you would find similar things about Sam.