On 14 Aug 2013, at 22:25, Craig Daniel <teu...@pobox.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 5:17 PM, Kerim Aydin <ke...@u.washington.edu> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> On Wed, 14 Aug 2013, Charles Walker wrote:
>>> On 14 Aug 2013, at 22:14, Craig Daniel <teu...@pobox.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 5:12 PM, Charles Walker
>>>> <charles.w.wal...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 14 Aug 2013, at 22:06, Craig Daniel <teu...@pobox.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I'd suggest the same, if I were an elder and thus empowered to do so.
>>>>>> (I'd've even suggested it after Sam, who might after all turn out to
>>>>>> be a real person who for some reason just happens to share an e-mail
>>>>>> address with Walker.)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sam is a real person, who happens to be in my house and who used my email 
>>>>> address to save me from logging out. (And because I wasn't sure whether 
>>>>> only subscribers could post to the lists.)
>>>> 
>>>> Convincing people who did not previously play to sign up for the lists
>>>> long enough to post is not especially hard. (Just ask Will and Ian.)
>>> 
>>> Maybe so, but if they don't bother to subscribe, they're still people.
>> 
>> Again, given the nature of the convincing, CFJ 1856 is relevant regardless
>> of whether email is independent.
> 
> I suggest contacting* Will, Ian, and Sam, and asking the three of them
> about the manner in which they were persuaded to take their various
> actions. You'll find Will and Ian acted of their own free will rather
> than because they were under any contractual obligation to do so, and
> their behaving according to a request from a friend is no different
> from how established players often collaborate. I'm sure you would
> find similar things about Sam, if you had any way of contacting em
> other than by talking to Walker.

I can confirm that you would find similar things about Sam.

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