...I further note, btw, that Will and Ian are both people I had previously pointed out the existence of Agora to, and I've pointed them both at the rules so they can review those. (Minionizing them is actually in part a secret ploy to get them to figure out what the heck they just did and maybe take their own actions in the nearish future. Which, Will and Ian, if you've registered for the discussion list and thereby seen me admit this and thereby damaged the secrecy of the ploy in question, I've probably already succeeded, haven't I, so there.)
On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 5:25 PM, Craig Daniel <[email protected]> wrote: > On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 5:17 PM, Kerim Aydin <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> On Wed, 14 Aug 2013, Charles Walker wrote: >>> On 14 Aug 2013, at 22:14, Craig Daniel <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> > On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 5:12 PM, Charles Walker >>> > <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >> On 14 Aug 2013, at 22:06, Craig Daniel <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >> >>> >>> I'd suggest the same, if I were an elder and thus empowered to do so. >>> >>> (I'd've even suggested it after Sam, who might after all turn out to >>> >>> be a real person who for some reason just happens to share an e-mail >>> >>> address with Walker.) >>> >> >>> >> Sam is a real person, who happens to be in my house and who used my >>> >> email address to save me from logging out. (And because I wasn't sure >>> >> whether only subscribers could post to the lists.) >>> > >>> > Convincing people who did not previously play to sign up for the lists >>> > long enough to post is not especially hard. (Just ask Will and Ian.) >>> >>> Maybe so, but if they don't bother to subscribe, they're still people. >> >> Again, given the nature of the convincing, CFJ 1856 is relevant regardless >> of whether email is independent. >> > > I suggest contacting* Will, Ian, and Sam, and asking the three of them > about the manner in which they were persuaded to take their various > actions. You'll find Will and Ian acted of their own free will rather > than because they were under any contractual obligation to do so, and > their behaving according to a request from a friend is no different > from how established players often collaborate. I'm sure you would > find similar things about Sam, if you had any way of contacting em > other than by talking to Walker. > > *I'd be mildly surprised by any of the three reading this list with > any regularity, so contacting them by personal mail is probably > necessary.

