On Sun, Jul 2, 2017 at 2:52 PM, Alex Smith <ais...@alumni.bham.ac.uk> wrote:

> On Sun, 2017-07-02 at 14:48 -0500, Nicholas Evans wrote:
> > > On Sun, Jul 2, 2017 at 2:33 PM, Alex Smith <ais...@alumni.bham.ac.uk>
> > wrote:
> > > I think the AP stuff was economically problematic as given as there'd
> > > very rarely be a need to spend shinies. How often does a typical player
> > > do three proposals/CFJs in a week? The answer is "not often", and all
> > > those players would just hoard Shinies as they have no reason to spend
> > > them.
> > Note that AP-actions don't pay out. You can hoard your shinies and use AP
> > instead, but you'd make more shinies if you effectively used them for
> > proposals. Honestly I would do an AP of 1 if I thought it wouldn't be
> > opposed, but people have already asked for 5.
>
> I know, but you never make a /profit/ by spending Shinies. So failing
> to make a loss is the best you can manage.
>
>
​That's not true. Since FV changes weekly, and it takes a week for a
proposal to pass, you just need to pend a week before an FV increase.
Pending itself will (marginally) increase FV. Buying a stamp would do so
even more. The more people pending and buying things W1, the more the
proposal will payout W2.​



> I know I'd never have any reasons to spend Shinies under the AP system
> you suggested, meaning I'd likely just hoard them forever. The people
> asking for 5 are basically looking for a way to bypass the economy
> entirely; I don't think I've seen 5 of this sort of action done in a
> week except as a consequence of a scam or as excessively spammy CFJs.
>
> --
> ais523
>

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