"A player SHOULD perform an action as an assisted action only if that
player is new to Agora (and thus has not yet had much of a chance to
earn shinies), or if that action has only trivial consequences, or if
that action is intended to be beneficial to Agora as a whole."
I'm wary of codified ethics.
I fear this can spring all kinds of drama (what is "new"? what is
"trivial"? Is this trivial enough? How about that? But HE said that
THIS was trivial, then MY thing should be trivial, right? right?,
etc). I'd much prefer a more formal restriction. For example, "new" is
defined as being less than X days old.
If you can make the neologisms like "socially pended" and the
mechanics themselves be more intuitive, all the better. It's not very
gameplay ergonomic right now. (the AP stuff an all was so smooth and
simple to grasp, because its was so similar to videogames. All of this
support stuff and the times stuff and all gets obscure and a chore to
interpret and it seems hard to use because of the times and the need
to summon help plus needing to have it conform to that codified
ethics. Too many things to check and arrange. Not as elegant).
Other than that, it looks alright.
On Sun, Jul 2, 2017 at 8:21 PM, Alex Smith <ais...@alumni.bham.ac.uk> wrote:
> On Fri, 2017-06-30 at 22:32 +0100, Alex Smith wrote:
> > On Thu, 2017-06-29 at 20:42 -0500, Nic Evans wrote:
> > > [economic overhaul]
> >
> > I like the ideas of this and think it would be an improvement, but I've
> > also been working on my own overhaul proposal (aiming for similar
> > goals) which would conflict with this a bit. Do you think it would be
> > worth trying to come up with a combined proposal? (If so, I could pay
> > to pend it.)
>
> OK, here's my attempt at a combined proposal. I'm not 100% sure what
> the current state of the rules are, so I decided to just overwrite all
> the relevant rules rather than try to co-operate with parallel
> proposals.
>
> Not submitting yet because people are likely to want to give feedback
> on this.
>
> The basic ideas are as follows: proposals and CFJs can each be
> submitted via two means, as an "assisted action" (similar to nichdel's
> AP mechanism), or via payment of Shinies (with CFJs, this scales with
> the number of recent CFJs by the same author to make it easier for em
> to track; with Proposals, this scales with the number of other
> proposals in the pool at the time). Instead of having a set number of
> assisted actions per week, they require Support (unless the player
> hardly ever performs assisted actions), or 3 Support if the same player
> tries to perform more than one in a week; thus, if there's a great need
> for a player to perform an action as a public service, it can be done,
> but most attempts to perform actions (especially ones that are selfish
> or don't have wide public agreement) require Shiny expenditure. (Just
> like in nichdel's proposal, spending Shinies means that a portion of
> those Shinies can go as a reward; in this case, it's half of them, with
> Agora getting the other half, to help improve liquidity.)
>
> {{{{
>
> Amend the rule "Economics" to read as follows:
> {{{
> Shinies (sg. shiny) are an indestructible liquid currency, and the
> official currency of Agora. They may be owned by Agora, any person,
> any organization, any CFJ, and any proposal. The Secretary is in most
> cases the recordkeepor for Shinies. However, the Promotor is the
> recordkeepor for Shinies owned by proposals, and the Arbitor is the
> recordkeepor for Shinies owned by CFJs.
>
> The Secretary CAN cause Agora to pay any player or organization by
> announcement if doing so is specified by a rule.
>
> If at any time a CFJ has had a judgement assigned continuously for at
> least 7 days, and that CFJ owns at least one Shiny, any player CAN
> transfer all Shinies owned by that CFJ to its judge by announcement.
>
> If a proposal has taken effect, any player CAN transfer all Shinies
> owned by that proposal to its author by announcement.
>
> If a proposal is not in the Proposal Pool, and there is no unresolved
> Agoran Decision on whether to adopt that proposal, any player CAN
> transfer all Shinies owned by that proposal to Agora by announcement.
> }}}
>
> Create a new rule, "Assisted Actions", at power 2, with the following
> text:
> {{{
> If a rule states that a person can perform an action as an "assisted
> action", that means that that person can perform that action:
>
> 1. By announcement, if that person has not performed an assisted
> action in the previous 28 days;
> 2. With 1 Support, if that person has not performed an assisted
> action in the previous 7 days;
> 3. With 3 Support, otherwise.
>
> A player SHOULD perform an action as an assisted action only if that
> player is new to Agora (and thus has not yet had much of a chance to
> earn shinies), or if that action has only trivial consequences, or if
> that action is intended to be beneficial to Agora as a whole.
> }}}
>
> Amend rule 2445 to read as follows:
> {{{
> A player CAN pay any number of shinies e owns to a proposal in the
> Proposal Pool by announcement. As an exception, a person CANNOT
> transfer shinies to a proposal e authored via any mechanism. Persons
> also CANNOT transfer shinies to a proposal via any mechanism unless it
> is in the Proposal Pool.
>
> A proposal's "rank" is equal to the number of other proposals in the
> Proposal Pool which own at least as many shinies as it does. A proposal
> in the Proposal Pool is "economically pending" if its Shiny balance is
> greater than or equal to the square of its rank.
>
> When a proposal is distributed, half the Shinies it owns, rounded down,
> are transferred to Agora.
>
> Additionally, a player CAN pend a proposal in the Proposal Pool as an
> assisted action. Proposals in the Proposal Pool are known as "socially
> pending" if they were pended via this mechanism since they were added
> to the proposal pool.
>
> A proposal is pending if it is socially pending, economically pending,
> or both.
> }}}
>
> In rule 991, replace all text before "At any time, " with the
> following:
> {{{
> Any person (the initiator) CAN initiate a Call for Judgement
> CFJ, syn. "judicial case", "inquiry case") as an assisted action. A
> person CAN also initiate a CFJ via paying N shinies to Agora, where N
> is 10 times the number of CFJs e has initiated in the previous 7 days,
> plus 5. When this second mechanism is used, Agora immediately then
> transfers half as many shinies (rounded up) to the newly initiated CFJ.
>
> When initiating a CFJ, the initiator MUST specify a statement to be
> inquired into, or the initiation is invalid.
>
> In the same message in which a player initiates a CFJ, e may also
> optionally bar one person from the case by announcement.
> }}}
> }}}}
>
> --
> ais523
>
