I motion to reconsider. Whether the winning bid can actually make a transfer or not shouldn't affect if there is actually an *auction* or not in the first place, I believe.
On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 11:14 AM, V.J Rada <[email protected]> wrote: > I'm judging this FALSE. GASP! Surprise rocks the nation. > I'm not judging it FALSE because auctioning is a regulated > action though. It seems to me that despite the auction > provisions, people could auction their own property > without breaching the rules. I'm judging it based on the fact > that Estate ownership is regulated, and CB's attempt to auction > off Estates owned by another entity (Agora) and person (Josh) > does not work. > > "A player who owns an Estate can and may transfer it to any > player, to any Organization, or to Agora, by announcement" > from rule 2489 regulates Estate ownership, as does the auction > provision. This, mixed with the fact that the ordinary meaning of > the word "Owner" means someone who can control their > property, precludes anyone from taking an Estate from its owner > or causing it to be taken from em, unless specifically authorized > by rule (such as the auction provision). > > > On Mon, Jul 3, 2017 at 12:12 AM, Alex Smith <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> On Sun, 2017-07-02 at 02:21 +0200, CuddleBeam wrote: >> > The moment is ripe to attempt something like this, because it's Auction >> > time. Let's go: >> > >> > Putting Estates up to Auction is an unregulated action, much like >> > withdrawing. (I don't personally believe this - because I believe all >> > actions in the universe are Regulated - but many others do, so I'm going >> > off that). In case its of doubt, the following states an obligation for >> the >> > Surveyor to perform, so its not a description of "circumstances under >> which >> > the action would succeed or fail": >> > >> > "At the start of each month, if Agora owns at least one Estate, the >> > Surveyor shall put one Estate which is owned by Agora up for auction, by >> > announcement. Each auction ends seven days after it begins." >> > >> > Additionally, the state of being in an auction or not is tracked by >> nobody, >> > so it doesn't infringe "would, as part of its effect, modify information >> > for which some player is required to be a recordkeepor" >> > >> > Therefore: >> > >> > - I put every Estate up for Auction, (even those owned by other >> players, if >> > possible). >> > - I then bid a million shinies on each of them. >> > - I then bid one shiny on each of them. >> > >> > I have absolutely no defense towards other people bidding more than a >> > million and using my own "scam" to win auctions, which only works versus >> > the "conventional" way of winning them by bidding amounts of cash you >> > actually own. >> > >> > I CFJ: "There is currently more than one auction for Estates" >> > >> > That's all. >> >> This is CFJ 3537. I assign it to V.J. Rada. >> >> -- >> ais523 >> Arbitor >> > >
