This change, mind you, would make G win.

Gaelan

> On Feb 11, 2018, at 4:39 PM, Kerim Aydin <ke...@u.washington.edu> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> How about we get rid of black ribbons altogether I loathe them
> (And am certainly not willing to make a rules exception for them).
> 
> On Mon, 12 Feb 2018, Alex Smith wrote:
>> On Mon, 2018-02-12 at 00:35 +0000, Alex Smith wrote:
>>> On Sun, 2018-02-11 at 16:32 -0800, Kerim Aydin wrote:
>>>> As referee I'm conflicted.  On one hand this is blatant use
>>>> of office for personal gain, on the other hand I convinced myself
>>>> when I was Tailor that the nature/ expectation of Black ribbons
>>>> made
>>>> this particular scam expected/ok.
>>> 
>>> I look down on intentionally breaking rules as part of a scam, but on
>>> the other hand, I'm more willing to forgive that when Black Ribbons
>>> are
>>> involved (without other parts of the gamestate being touched).
>>> Perhaps
>>> I'm OK with this if the Tailor is OK with living with the typical
>>> punishment for intentionally falsifying the report (even though I
>>> normally believe that you shouldn't break the rules even if you're
>>> willing to live with the resulting punishment).
>>> 
>>> Incidentally, I also believe it's acceptable to attempt to scam your
>>> way out of a punishment after an accidental rules breach, because
>>> that's a different issue from the rules breach itself. But that's
>>> probably unlikely to happen here.
>> 
>> Hmm, proto: actions whose only purpose is to gain a Black Ribbon are
>> never illegal (although they could be impossible); however, if they
>> would otherwise violate the rules, they are (despite being legal) a
>> cardable offence.
>> 
>> -- 
>> ais523
>> 
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