Maybe you can re-break it because “the time window of a pledge is 60 days” (unless otherwise specified), not “the earlier of 60 days and when it is broken.” So maybe the pledge stays in effect. The same conduct cannot give rise to repeated fines, but different breaches of the same pledge maybe can. On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 7:50 PM Kerim Aydin <ke...@u.washington.edu> wrote:
> > > The crime isn't "failure to track", it's "breaking a pledge" (by failing > to track). Once a pledge is broken, it's broken...? Can you re-break it? > > On Mon, 1 Oct 2018, D Margaux wrote: > > > I think that once a person have been punished for breaking a pledge, > the > > > pledge is done (as e can't be punished twice, there's no requirement > > > anymore). So the result of the finger-point, if e is punished, is to > end > > > the pledge. (Whether this is true is a general question about pledges, > > > maybe CFJ-worthy). > > > > Maybe, maybe not. After all, in the minutes that have elapsed since your > pointed finger, a great many new things have happened that CuddleBeam > failed to track. So perhaps players can continue to point eir fingers at > CuddleBeam for new violations of eir pledge until e is forcibly > deregistered... :-) > > > > I cause nichdel to Point eir Finger at Cuddle Beam for failing to track > a bunch more things in the time that elapsed since G. Pointed eir Finger. > > > > > On Oct 1, 2018, at 7:15 PM, Kerim Aydin <ke...@u.washington.edu> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >> On Mon, 1 Oct 2018, Cuddle Beam wrote: > > >> I pledge the following: I pledge to be the recordkeepor of absolutely > > >> everything. > > > > > > Clever! Really, really clever. I like this. > > > > > > I act on behalf of Gaelan to publish: > > > Notice of Honour > > > +1 CuddleBeam (for taking the burden of tracking my bank balance from > me). > > > -1 Ouri (more karma decay for zombies) > > > > > > I point my finger at CuddleBeam for Oathbreaking (breaking the above > > > Pledge), as e is not tracking absolutely everything. > > > > > > I think that once a person have been punished for breaking a pledge, > the > > > pledge is done (as e can't be punished twice, there's no requirement > > > anymore). So the result of the finger-point, if e is punished, is to > end > > > the pledge. (Whether this is true is a general question about pledges, > > > maybe CFJ-worthy). > > > > > > I think it is beyond a reasonable doubt that e isn't keeping records. > I > > > believe being "recordkeepor of X", by common definition, requires em to > > > actually keep records. As the claim is so extraordinary, the burden of > > > proof is on em, not us. I invite em to prove me wrong. To do so, I > have > > > SHA-512 hashed the current balance of my checking account (plus some > > > salt that's not part of the record): > > > > > > ccd0019a73ade101456525ef141cf6f65e5627bbfcae82d2b18c326382b2ee1a > > > 7284ac8cb3649ffbf5c36794779931acfabf1ef97e1b932ba3dd6fc615979454 > > > > > > If e is tracking this, e can publish what it is, and e is invited to > > > demonstrate. > > > > > > > > > >
